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LE did nothing wrong. Blame is totally on tax payers for not providing comms gear and keys with heightened blame assigned to responding parents. Funny FULL REPORT: Independent investigation into Uvalde massacre, police response paid for by city https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...ssacre-police-response-paid-for-by-city/"Instead, Prado placed the blame on communication issues, crowds outside the school and officers not having the correct keys on hand."
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I kinda sorta blame the shooter.
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Maybe call or Email Mr. Prado and express your concerns... From the link...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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You expected otherwise???? PJ
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT Facts are irrelevant here. The coward that ordered officers to treat it as a barricaded gunman is to blame. The cowards who listened to him are to blame. Those same cowards that didn't make entry upon hearing gunfire (and knew kids were alive inside the classroom) are to blame. Whoever propped open the exterior door because they were too lazy to use their swipe card is somewhat to blame. The suspect is to blame. (Strop won't do that because deep down he wants to emulate his actions but doesn't have the ballz) Didn't TX DPS lay this out pretty clearly in their report? Go look it up stroppy.
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Sure, that's the way it looked to me.
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How much did they get paid for lying?
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT Facts are irrelevant here. The coward that ordered officers to treat it as a barricaded gunman is to blame. The cowards who listened to him are to blame. Those same cowards that didn't make entry upon hearing gunfire (and knew kids were alive inside the classroom) are to blame. Whoever propped open the exterior door because they were too lazy to use their swipe card is somewhat to blame. The suspect is to blame. (Strop won't do that because deep down he wants to emulate his actions but doesn't have the ballz) Didn't TX DPS lay this out pretty clearly in their report? Go look it up stroppy. That's the long and short of it. Anything else is just spin.
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anybody surprised by this is not paying attention.
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT Facts are irrelevant here. The coward that ordered officers to treat it as a barricaded gunman is to blame. The cowards who listened to him are to blame. Those same cowards that didn't make entry upon hearing gunfire (and knew kids were alive inside the classroom) are to blame. Whoever propped open the exterior door because they were too lazy to use their swipe card is somewhat to blame. The suspect is to blame. (Strop won't do that because deep down he wants to emulate his actions but doesn't have the ballz) Didn't TX DPS lay this out pretty clearly in their report? Go look it up stroppy. I don't support the shooter nor do I recall anyone who has. If you want support for a shooter look no further than killers such as Amber Guyger. Same Texas DPS that got released of info halted? https://www.texastribune.org/2023/11/30/uvalde-shooting-investigation-records/And no one propped the door open. https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-te...-door-open-traumatized/story?id=85149742
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Good news for the drug dealers in Uvalde. The cops need keys to make entry.
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By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT Facts are irrelevant here. The coward that ordered officers to treat it as a barricaded gunman is to blame. The cowards who listened to him are to blame. Those same cowards that didn't make entry upon hearing gunfire (and knew kids were alive inside the classroom) are to blame. Whoever propped open the exterior door because they were too lazy to use their swipe card is somewhat to blame. The suspect is to blame. (Strop won't do that because deep down he wants to emulate his actions but doesn't have the ballz) Didn't TX DPS lay this out pretty clearly in their report? Go look it up stroppy. I don't support the shooter nor do I recall anyone who has. If you want support for a shooter look no further than killers such as Amber Guyger. Same Texas DPS that got released of info halted? https://www.texastribune.org/2023/11/30/uvalde-shooting-investigation-records/And no one propped the door open. https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-te...-door-open-traumatized/story?id=85149742All exterior doors should be secured. If it was not secure, whoever allowed that to happen, whether it was propped open or not in working order, or by policy, is partly at fault. You are a coward. No different than the cowards that didn't do their duty that day
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Your use of liberal news rags doesn't build your case.
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Your use of liberal news rags doesn't build your case. +1 ya! GWB
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Only minor correction: I’d guess not all the people who needed to use that door every day were given a key and/or coded ID to swipe. Look at the problem they had finding someone with a classroom or master key once the event was underway. With locks failing and being replaced, new doors, staff turnover etc the key situation in school districts often goes fubar, or did before this event. I also doubt they’d have electronic door locks/swipe cards in place at that time.
What would likely have been in place ever since Sandy Hook would have been a secure front entrance with double-locked possibly electric doors in place, with an expectation that people would enter and leave that way, despite having to walk around the building.
Still a violation of procedure with tragic results.
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Didn’t uvalde pay for it? HINT Facts are irrelevant here. The coward that ordered officers to treat it as a barricaded gunman is to blame. The cowards who listened to him are to blame. Those same cowards that didn't make entry upon hearing gunfire (and knew kids were alive inside the classroom) are to blame. Whoever propped open the exterior door because they were too lazy to use their swipe card is somewhat to blame. The suspect is to blame. (Strop won't do that because deep down he wants to emulate his actions but doesn't have the ballz) Didn't TX DPS lay this out pretty clearly in their report? Go look it up stroppy. I don't support the shooter nor do I recall anyone who has. If you want support for a shooter look no further than killers such as Amber Guyger. Same Texas DPS that got released of info halted? https://www.texastribune.org/2023/11/30/uvalde-shooting-investigation-records/And no one propped the door open. https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-te...-door-open-traumatized/story?id=85149742All exterior doors should be secured. If it was not secure, whoever allowed that to happen, whether it was propped open or not in working order, or by policy, is partly at fault. You are a coward. No different than the cowards that didn't do their duty that day Those cowards hide behind their badges and make excuses for other badge wearers just like you do.
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Only minor correction: I’d guess not all the people who needed to use that door every day were given a key and/or coded ID to swipe. Look at the problem they had finding someone with a classroom or master key once the event was underway. With locks failing and being replaced, new doors, staff turnover etc the key situation in school districts often goes fubar, or did before this event. I also doubt they’d have electronic door locks/swipe cards in place at that time.
What would likely have been in place ever since Sandy Hook would have been a secure front entrance with double-locked possibly electric doors in place, with an expectation that people would enter and leave that way, despite having to walk around the building.
Still a violation of procedure with tragic results. The classroom door wasn't locked. Something one of the parents would have figured out.
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First: I kinda sorta blame the shooter. Second: Cowardice
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