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H I know chain or no chain, very few if any anchors I've seen hold in the rocks on the Talkeetna. Now and again you can snag up. And if its clear I can usually see enough in the rocks to snag an anchor. But having drifted miles without power TRYING to snag its not happened. The only way to snag is get close enough to bank to toss the anchor into the trees. And with a long heavy chain its almost impossible. But having drug an anchor with a long heavy chain a few miles down stream....
I will say though our system with longest heavy chain and anchor, seems to allow the boats to drift slower... 20-26 foot jet boats with inboard V8s... Some rivers just don't lend themselves to anchoring effectively.
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Weird test medium but it does show what anchors actually dig in deep.
I run a 44# Bruce during moose season with lots of 3/8 chain. Probably one of the best investments I have made as 50-70 mph gusts are not uncommon in early Oct.
A ton of scope although often ideal isn’t always the best thing to put if the anchorage is tight. Storm hits you at SE, and at the end of it it switches to SW or W. Great way to end up on the beach if you put out too much scope. Some of my anchorages don’t allow for much swing.
Just as important to what anchor you use is where you anchor and the bottom type. When I was fishing in S.E AK I ran the Bruce as well 33# (aka the claw) with a bunch of 3/8” chain as well. It worked better as an all round anchor in different types of bottoms than the others I tried. I suspect that you use gangion for the break away too. Down here I run the 33# Bruce on a slightly smaller sled with 1/4” chain but if I get in a spot and need to get stopped I want to stop.
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Weird test medium but it does show what anchors actually dig in deep.
I run a 44# Bruce during moose season with lots of 3/8 chain. Probably one of the best investments I have made as 50-70 mph gusts are not uncommon in early Oct.
A ton of scope although often ideal isn’t always the best thing to put if the anchorage is tight. Storm hits you at SE, and at the end of it it switches to SW or W. Great way to end up on the beach if you put out too much scope. Some of my anchorages don’t allow for much swing.
Just as important to what anchor you use is where you anchor and the bottom type. When I was fishing in S.E AK I ran the Bruce as well 33# (aka the claw) with a bunch of 3/8” chain as well. It worked better as an all round anchor in different types of bottoms than the others I tried. I suspect that you use gangion for the break away too. Down here I run the 33# Bruce on a slightly smaller sled with 1/4” chain but if I get in a spot and need to get stopped I want to stop. Yeah 33# bruce is my fishing anchor. I don't use a breakway as it catches up in my sprit using the anchor drum. So far, so good. And I get stuck a lot.
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Dry sandy bottoms are pretty rare in PWS!
A chain essentially helps improve the scope.
Small boats are typically chain amd anchor line combo.
10K Bruce on a 24' boat works quite well.
Ships use all chain rode as it increases the weight of the ground tackle and has the strength to do tbe job.
No one in their right mind would run just a chain or just a anchor. Not worthy of discussion.
The issue with a bruce is they are not self launching and require a articulating anchor mount, which makes it difficult to rig as a breakaway.
Always concerned when anchoring in rocks.
If I ever lose the claw, I would get a Rocna.
For those without thumbs, it's s Garden fookin Island, not Hawaii
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Dry sandy bottoms are pretty rare in PWS!
A chain essentially helps improve the scope.
Small boats are typically chain amd anchor line combo.
10K Bruce on a 24' boat works quite well.
Ships use all chain rode as it increases the weight of the ground tackle and has the strength to do tbe job.
No one in their right mind would run just a chain or just a anchor. Not worthy of discussion.
The issue with a bruce is they are not self launching and require a articulating anchor mount, which makes it difficult to rig as a breakaway.
Always concerned when anchoring in rocks.
If I ever lose the claw, I would get a Rocna. I guess I never had a problem with giving it a couple of feet of slack and kicking it loose before moving up on my anchor spot. One boat I was on was with a winch the last couple I pull on the ball so I’m deploying the anchor by hand anyway.
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Weird test medium but it does show what anchors actually dig in deep.
I run a 44# Bruce during moose season with lots of 3/8 chain. Probably one of the best investments I have made as 50-70 mph gusts are not uncommon in early Oct.
A ton of scope although often ideal isn’t always the best thing to put if the anchorage is tight. Storm hits you at SE, and at the end of it it switches to SW or W. Great way to end up on the beach if you put out too much scope. Some of my anchorages don’t allow for much swing.
Just as important to what anchor you use is where you anchor and the bottom type. Do you 2-anchor much?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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One word Benjamin 😁……catenary.
You ought to see an anchor deployment on a carrier. 😳
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
--Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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No. Just do a search for “carrier anchor”
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Dry sandy bottoms are pretty rare in PWS!
A chain essentially helps improve the scope.
Small boats are typically chain amd anchor line combo.
10K Bruce on a 24' boat works quite well.
Ships use all chain rode as it increases the weight of the ground tackle and has the strength to do tbe job.
No one in their right mind would run just a chain or just a anchor. Not worthy of discussion.
The issue with a bruce is they are not self launching and require a articulating anchor mount, which makes it difficult to rig as a breakaway.
Always concerned when anchoring in rocks.
If I ever lose the claw, I would get a Rocna. I guess I never had a problem with giving it a couple of feet of slack and kicking it loose before moving up on my anchor spot. One boat I was on was with a winch the last couple I pull on the ball so I’m deploying the anchor by hand anyway. I am running a drum winch these days. Made a articulating bow roller to self launch, works good, just haven't figured out how to rig it to breakaway and still come off / on the bow roller.
For those without thumbs, it's s Garden fookin Island, not Hawaii
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