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What are you trying to prove? I promise you I know this better than you. These are new Abrams manufactured to the monkey model standard. They did not have the composite armor and they had the 105 mm guns. These are somewhat equivalent to the M-1s that began to enter service in the late 1970s though not exactly, as that those made for US use in the 1970s had composite armor. Good, just the man to speak to. Is the engine bay susceptible to prolonged sticky heat attack on the euk versions? I have no clue what you’re talking about. All I know is we made brand new export model Abrams to standard never procured by the US because we didn’t want real Abrams getting knocked out and/or captured. It’s why it was a stupid gesture and just more money laundering for defense contractors. And of course since these substandard tanks look like Abrams, the hey provide a propaganda coup when they are inevitably knocked out.
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Britain has upped their defense spending from 50 billion gbp by another 11 billion gbp equaling over 2.5% of GDP. What do you suppose is going to happen to all those weapons the Europhags are building/buying? Buckle up buttercup, nukes will be flying within 20 years because "it's cheaper to use them than to dispose of them". This is what these pro-ukrainian ass clowns dont realize. Tis will end in nuclear war. Funny how all the elites are building bunkers. Literally, all of them lol. Other country are starting to build bunkers. Some countries have just passed laws stating that if one builds new construction, there has to be a bomb shelter in place to be up to code. Good times fellas
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It’s as obvious as the nose on Zelensky’s face what the ultimate goal of the cabal is. We’ve heard…no we won’t send MLRS because it’ll provoke Putin and then we send MLRS….No we won’t send Abrams tanks because it’ll provoke Putin and then we send Abrams tanks…we won’t send F-16s because it’ll provoke Putin and then we send F-16s….no we won’t send long range ballistic missiles because it’ll provoke Putin and then we send LR ballistic missiles…no we won’t get NATO directly involved because it’ll provoke Putin but then we have NATO directly involved!
Just a few examples of the craziness that the cabal is instigating while they gamble with the lives of the peasants worldwide!
If Russians and their former countrymen want to kill each other over an Obama/Klinton/Nuland color revolution then let them, “we” have done ENOUGH! We need to extricate ourselves before we cause WWIII.
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What was sent was refurbished M1a1's with 120mm guns...
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What are you trying to prove? I promise you I know this better than you. These are new Abrams manufactured to the monkey model standard. They did not have the composite armor and they had the 105 mm guns. These are somewhat equivalent to the M-1s that began to enter service in the late 1970s though not exactly, as that those made for US use in the 1970s had composite armor. Good, just the man to speak to. Is the engine bay susceptible to prolonged sticky heat attack on the euk versions? I have no clue what you’re talking about. All I know is we made brand new export model Abrams to standard never procured by the US because we didn’t want real Abrams getting knocked out and/or captured. It’s why it was a stupid gesture and just more money laundering for defense contractors. And of course since these substandard tanks look like Abrams, the hey provide a propaganda coup when they are inevitably knocked out. of course those big heavy Abrams with twin turbos don't put out a huge heat signature and can't be seen by Russian satellites with thermo sensors lol The Abrams and patriot systems were game changers in Afghanistan for sure two billion dollar a piece US Patriot missile systems were taken out by two one million dollar Russian hypersonic missiles. good return of money
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Russian soldiers posted a video today begging Biden to send more M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine and promising to give him 10% of the bonuses they will earn for destroying those tanks.
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It doesn't matter how many or what Biden sends to that God forsaken place it'll be destroyed and if reparable the Russians will rebuild it and point it at the Ukraine army. The sooner you Bidenistas get it through your thick heads that the war is lost the better off you'll be when it ends.
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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updatesNicole Wolkov, Angelica Evans, Christina Harward, Karolina Hird, Grace Mappes, and Frederick W. Kagan March 11, 2024 A Ukrainian military observer offered assessments of Russian force generation and defense industrial base (DIB) capacities that are consistent with ISW’s previous assessments. Russia’s increased defense industrial base (DIB) production is likely not sustainable in the medium and long-term as it will likely suffer from labor shortages, decreased weapons and equipment stockpiles, and an inability to completely compensate for military and dual-use items it can no longer acquire due to sanctions. Transfers of North Korean weapons to Russia by sea have apparently resumed after a pause since mid-February 2024. A Ukrainian military source noted that Russian forces are increasingly using grenades equipped with chemical substances in the Zaporizhia direction, in potential violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) to which Russia is a signatory. The Moldovan Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) has summoned Russian Ambassador to Moldova Oleg Vasnetsov in response to claims that Russia will operate polling stations in pro-Russian Moldovan breakaway region Transnistria during the Russian presidential election. Russia, China, and Iran will hold the joint Maritime Security Belt – 2024 naval exercise in the Gulf of Oman between March 11–15. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) claimed that the West intends to use Armenia as a tool against Russia, a notable escalation in its information operations criticizing Armenian efforts to distance itself from security relations with Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a bill on March 11 that allows Russian authorities to further restrict actors it deems “foreign agents” to consolidate control over the Russian information space ahead of the presidential election. France is reportedly prepared to build a coalition of countries that are open to potentially sending Western military personnel to Ukraine. Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Kreminna, Bakhmut, and Donetsk City. Russian President Vladimir Putin continues efforts to cater to Russian servicemembers and their families with the promise of various social benefits.
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Go to bed Tonka. Plenty of time for more fantasizing tomorrow
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"Russia sucks."
---- Me, US Army (retired) 12B & 51B
Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".
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"Russia sucks."
---- Me, US Army (retired) 12B & 51B
Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".
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Secret French Army (lol) report on cuckraine:
"A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"
"Ukraine's counter-offensive "gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain" and its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be "disastrous"
"Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain".
"The inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these "Year II soldiers" from Ukraine - often trained for "no more than three weeks" - were repeatedly launched into an assault on Russian fortification lines that proved impregnable."
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Time to knock this sumbitch in the head Rick!
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Ukraine's army was destroyed long ago. You can't build an army on the fly. The art of waging war has evolved and like in times past there are hard earned lessons. Russia is a formidable enemy. It's industry is working on a war footing. It's people are determined and troupes are well trained and equipped. The sensible thing to do is sue for peace and negotiate as best they can under the circumstances. Negotiating soon after this started would have been far more productive than it is likely to be now that it has gone on so long. This is a dilemma caused by a make believe President and an administration that has no idea how to nobly get out of the hole they've dug. Ukraine is led by an ex-exotic dancer placed in power by an Oligarch that had an axe to grind with Russia and a make believe American President that has everything to hide. Russia will grind Ukraine down until what's left of it's armed forces melt away.
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Looks like the Russians got *another* HIMARS.
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Time to knock this sumbitch in the head Rick! For sure. About the only thing this thread is good for is giving the troll Housti-Toot and Tonka something to do with their days, while mildly entertaining the rest of us with slapping them around. Even Burns has abandoned his "orcs! Orcs!! ORCS!!!" BS and moved on. Ukraine never stood a snowballs chance and 'winning' was never an option. Ukraine's army was destroyed long ago. You can't build an army on the fly. The art of waging war has evolved and like in times past there are hard earned lessons. Russia is a formidable enemy. It's industry is working on a war footing. It's people are determined and troupes are well trained and equipped. The sensible thing to do is sue for peace and negotiate as best they can under the circumstances. Negotiating soon after this started would have been far more productive than it is likely to be now that it has gone on so long. This is a dilemma caused by a make believe President and an administration that has no idea how to nobly get out of the hole they've dug. Ukraine is led by an ex-exotic dancer placed in power by an Oligarch that had an axe to grind with Russia and a make believe American President that has everything to hide. Russia will grind Ukraine down until what's left of it's armed forces melt away. Yep!
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The US sends a $300 million immediate shipment of arms and ammunition to Ukraine.
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It would be more productive to just burn it.
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