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Here's what I'm currently seeing with the Leupold DD bases I have.

1st pic are the bases that come packaged together with the extended rear and fronts
2nd pic is of a mix of the 1st package and a regular front base
Others are some overall scope positioning

Just not sure about the ring positioning being to close to the objective with the mixture of the two.

I can live with the rear extended base, but the front extended base is a no go for me.

Kinda liking the looks of the Warne QD and it appears they position the front ring a little more back than what I'd be dealing with currently.

Other option is to mount a VX5 2-10x42 that's sitting in the safe vs the 1.5-5 in the pictures.

Dirt - I found reference to your rifle when I 1st picked this up and 1/2 tempted to do the same. I picked this particular rifle up this past year at Scheels for 700+ tax, looked like someone had fired a few shots with the open sites and presume it went back into the safe.

Was one of those deals where I couldn't afford not to buy it. Of course like all things, the rifle was the cheap part as I just booked a cow cape buffalo hunt for next year (pockets aren't deep enough for a bull hunt at this time).


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I hope that you felt just a little bit guilty when walking out the door with that…..cause you stole it! I certainly don’t need another .375 H&H……but, I’d have grabbed that one! Congratulations ! memtb


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It never looks right to my eye when a two piece base is cantilevered over the breech.
Looks like your hole pattern is the Express pattern.
1st to 2nd: 0.330" 1st to 3rd: 4.660" 1st to 4th: 5.520"

Maybe use a one-piece base ?


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Originally Posted by 69sportfury
Here's what I'm currently seeing with the Leupold DD bases I have.

1st pic are the bases that come packaged together with the extended rear and fronts
2nd pic is of a mix of the 1st package and a regular front base
Others are some overall scope positioning

Just not sure about the ring positioning being to close to the objective with the mixture of the two.

I can live with the rear extended base, but the front extended base is a no go for me.

Kinda liking the looks of the Warne QD and it appears they position the front ring a little more back than what I'd be dealing with currently.

Other option is to mount a VX5 2-10x42 that's sitting in the safe vs the 1.5-5 in the pictures.

Dirt - I found reference to your rifle when I 1st picked this up and 1/2 tempted to do the same. I picked this particular rifle up this past year at Scheels for 700+ tax, looked like someone had fired a few shots with the open sites and presume it went back into the safe.

Was one of those deals where I couldn't afford not to buy it. Of course like all things, the rifle was the cheap part as I just booked a cow cape buffalo hunt for next year (pockets aren't deep enough for a bull hunt at this time).


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Ah yes. Pics are worth a 1,000 words. One of the reasons I generally don't use DD's on my H&H magnum receivers. I'd go with the steel warne or Leupold QRW/PRW bases. Not only because they won't hang over the ejection port, but they are stronger, you can use QD type rings, plus they are a little easier to work with for fore to aft adjustment, because you can turn the front base around so the slots are more inboard, or further outboard.

Here are some Leupold QRW/PRW mounts on an H&H receiver:
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The warne is a little more adjustable than the Leupold, as it has 2 slots in the front mount:
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I don't really like that one, because it will either hang off the front of the receiver, or if you turn it the other directtion, it hangs into the ejection port. However, it's there, for cases like the OP is dealing with. I personally modify that Warne mount, and run a longer tube scope, if that is the issue. That's just me though..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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That looks good, BSA.
The OP should re-group and do something like that.


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Yes, thank you all...

Plan to order up some Leupold QRW bases and go that route


PS: Yes, I know I stole it and felt good about it smile My friend I was with was looking at me like WTF when I grabbed it and wouldn't set it back down. I wanted one when they were 1200 or so, but couldn't ever justify it and now with some bringing 2k plus I couldn't resist.

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Originally Posted by 69sportfury
Yes, thank you all...

Plan to order up some Leupold QRW bases and go that route


PS: Yes, I know I stole it and felt good about it smile My friend I was with was looking at me like WTF when I grabbed it and wouldn't set it back down. I wanted one when they were 1200 or so, but couldn't ever justify it and now with some bringing 2k plus I couldn't resist.

You did very well. Plus that is a 5 digit, which makes it even more desirable. Well done!! I'll bet it shoots very well too.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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I goofed a couple years ago and passed a Winchester Stainless 375HH at Cabela’s, it was priced about $850 IIRC. I should not have passed. My 375 HH is a No 1 that needs to shot.
You did alright and with that rifle at $700+. Smarter than me for not passing.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Here is my Win Classic Stainless 338
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That's a classic look to me. ^^^

DD's always look good, I don't know what the OP's issues is, without pics.

When I'm not using DD's, I'll use the weaver style cross slot mounts for my heavier kickers. I'll also use steel over aluminum in those instances. Warne and Leupold both make some good mounts/bases. Then I prefer Burris Zee rings, or the Leupold PRW's for more heft on the magnums like the 375 H&H.
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Op needs to post a picture, so he can show us exactly what he doesn't like about them.
Whats your rifle chambered in? I don’t remember my factory stock have that much texture in it.
Sitting in a hospital bed recovering from a knee replacement, might be a bit before I pull out a stock to refresh my memory. I have a 5 digit Cl. Stainless that needs a replacement factory stock. Someone shortened the original a bit. I have it setting in the factory stock from the rifle above. I do have a MPI or ! Stock I was going to fit on the 5 digit. To somewhat match the 338. I will have to fix the floorplate inlet as its for a 1 piece.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Can’t remember. Will weigh it and post results when I get home from the office.

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9# 1oz empty.

1.5-6x42 Victory is not a light weight scope. With a Leupold it would be in the upper 8# range.

Balances at the receiver ring, which makes it feel and handle lighter than it did before the ”surgery”. With the OEM 24” “truck axle” it was way muzzle heavy, handled accordingly.

I learned that Winchester from that era, had all their big magnums with the same barrel contour. Of course the .375 had more steel in the barrel than the .416 or .458.

I don’t think I’d want a really light .375 H&H.

This one is a keeper.

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Thanks DF…..that sounds like a dream rifle! Exactly what my AI weighs “all up”! It’s a pleasure to carry when hunting, but does jump a bit when shot from the bench!

Had Winchester been making that when I built my AI……I would have had the perfect rifle. As it is, mine is just….near perfect!

Congrats……never let it go! 👍 memtb


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Go with Elmer and set you up a standing bench for the big guns. He knew what he was talking about.

BTW, this Classic is a 6 digit G gun, built in 2001.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Go with Elmer and set you up a standing bench for the big guns. He knew what he was talking about.

BTW, this Classic is a 6 digit G gun, built in 2001.

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I don’t think that I could ever get as stable standing at the bench as I could from a seated position.

Thankfully, I don’t have anything that has severe recoil. Maybe once you pass 70 or so ft/lbs recoil, tiny groups cease to be that important! 😂 memtb


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Go with Elmer and set you up a standing bench for the big guns. He knew what he was talking about.

BTW, this Classic is a 6 digit G gun, built in 2001.

DF

Yours is. The OP's looks like a 5 digit classic. I think Winchester should have made them more like yours to begin with. Or even a little lighter contour. A fluted 375 H&H EW would be a cool rifle. One with factory irons, and 22" barrel. Yours is just about perfect DF.. Even with the factory stock, as I know you probably bedded that one right, with Brownell's steel bed or something like that. I'm an odd ball though, I like the factory tupperware stocks. I always paint them, and install a better recoil pad, and glass bed them, but that's all they need, to be made serviceable and more appealing.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Go with Elmer and set you up a standing bench for the big guns. He knew what he was talking about.

BTW, this Classic is a 6 digit G gun, built in 2001.

DF

I don’t think that I could ever get as stable standing at the bench as I could from a seated position.

Thankfully, I don’t have anything that has severe recoil. Maybe once you pass 70 or so ft/lbs recoil, tiny groups cease to be that important! 😂 memtb
Not quite as stable but pretty good for a big boomer.

I was sighting in my buds .416 M-70 with 400 gr NPT and SAF’s at 65 yds. Was able to get some pretty good groups.

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I was at the grand opening of Walmart in Anchorage in spring of 1993.
Got mine NIB then and there while the Mom & Pop shops cursed the big box store come to town.
I had not seen one anywhere else before Walmart came to Alaska.

Mine was destined to become a .375 WBY MAG by a simple chamber reamer cleanup with the 2001 CIP version,
shorter throated than the 1945 version and very accurate.
Shot my tiniest 3-shot group ever at 100 yards with a hot handload and a custom 300-grain bullet.
The tupperware stock was replaced with an HS Precision.
Empty, iron-sighted rifle with QRW 2-pc bases weighed 8 lbs 11 oz.
Screws were 8x40-ed by gunsmith when it was re-chambered.
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Rear scope base can be reversed for no overhang, but have to be this way to fit the old Leupold 2.5-8x36mm.
The Leupold 1.5-5x20mm works with no overhang of rear base.

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Nice rifles gents!


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I think I have Warne bases on mine, and I could likely flip the front looking at the pictures, but for now, I am leaving it as is. I think I used Leupold BC rings on mine with a plain old 6x42 with dots.

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Tried an old M8 4X and liked the 6X more.


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Awesome rifle…..in functionality and accuracy, plus a nice little “improvement”! 👍 The “only” thing that keeps it from being “perfect” is the weight, get her under about 9 1 or 2 loaded/scoped/slung……then you have the “PERFECT” rifle! 👍👍👍 memtb

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Originally Posted by memtb
Awesome rifle…..in functionality and accuracy, plus a nice little “improvement”! 👍 The “only” thing that keeps it from being “perfect” is the weight, get her under about 9 1 or 2 loaded/scoped/slung……then you have the “PERFECT” rifle! 👍👍👍 memtb
9#, 1oz or so can be affected by the scope. The one I posted would be in the high 8 # range with a smaller Leopold glass.

To me, the scope I mounted is worth the cost and weight. Its light gathering is top notch. One guy who hunts Africa commented what a great leopard combo that would be. Makes sense.

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Yeah, those barrels are really accurate, more so than one would expect.

I have a bragging 3 shot target, too. Not easy to duplicate, but sure if nice when you shoot one like that.

Those big bores are often surprisingly accurate.

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