Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Create monster sheep? Go to jail.

So, the man "creates" a Marco Polo sheep, the likes of which no American has ever seen on the hoof. Knowing it's illegal, where would he plan to hide them? It would be like trying to hide an Elephant in a dog park.

“Captive hunting” hard to believe that’s a thing.

Maybe he was just trying to be inclusive???

Does a Mohammad like monstersheep?

I support jail for this prick. GD

Don't really care either way myself
What's the difference between this person and
all these I've seen that breed big non-typical
whitetail deer for people to shoot for their
office/den/mancave wall and post on their
farcebook and yoofloob page ?
There's a LOT of that that goes on

Because Montana folks don’t want it to turn into Texas.

Shooting game farm operations were made illegal in Montana by a Citizen Initiative.


That said there is a lot of fire regulars that hunt high fence and pass it off as a real hunt.


Anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge about wild bighorn sheep understand the damage domestic sheep can do to the wild population.

Wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see the domestic field maggots removed from any state with wild sheep populations.

Morally, I really only see the “escape to Bighorn Mountain” narrative as holding water. If some duffer wants to shoot a domestic sheep to stroke his ego, whatever, not my thing, but that’s what freedom is about.

We’ve been breeding and domesticating sheep to suit our purposes for millennia. This dude did the same with some high tech, and bred for horns instead of wool production.

Of course, the most interesting part of the story was left out. Which high fence operator was passed over and turned him in out of spite?

Again high fence shooter operations are illegal in MT.

The issue isn't shooting farm animals and calling it 'hunting'. The issue is that he's illegally using genes from endangered species. When an animal is protected by the ESA, you can't mess with them at all. He's also falsely representing what the hybrids are, truth in labeling.

From what I understand, that ship has sailed.
I see on various forums and the "news" about the
influx of out-of-staters in Montana and Idaho
and the mini ranches and gated subdivisions
just like everywhere else. Lots of californians
and rust belters just like here

Oh well. . .
I'd fix it all if I could but I can't

You are confusing high fence shooting operations with subdivisions.

Wasn’t there talk of bringing back the wooly Mamoth? You have to be a lawyer to do anything. The guy breeding the monster sheep probably could have it without importing. It just would have taken a lot longer . Always someone trying to “Buck “ the system.

What is hard for me to understand is the mentality of a "hunter" that would pay big money to shoot a domestic animal which is exactly what shooting fenced game is.

That bison deal in North Dakota is no more than shooting domestic cattle and we have members here that do that.

I know whereof I speak because I have assisted on cull hunts to lower the whitetail deer population in a 1000 acre enclosure. I never thought of that as hunting and a whitetail is pretty sneaky compared to western game.

Does anyone watch commercials? Nothing but hybrids everywhere.

Mammoth has 3 m-s - your choice for placement of course, Alan.

High fence/ captive for an invasive non- native species, vs for native species is somewhat different for reasons that should be obvious.

If it isn't, research the problems occurring between native bighorn sheep and domestic " invasive" sheep.

Or farming Atlantic salmon in the Pacific salmon native grounds.

Has nothing to do with high fence hunting.

And Schubarth doesn't have domestice sheep, so the "perceived threat" you brought to the discussion is your own bias creeping out.

Must've skipped that semester where reading comprehension was taught.

It is about Schubarth importing animals and parts and forging vet permits.

The FWP etc have been after this guy for years. Accused him of trapping wild bighorns and putting them in his property and tagging as if they were ranch-raised among other things. And he is an ornery sob that continually gave the FWP and the FWS etc the bird.

But...


But...


But, he is a NATIVE MONTANAN. Heck, there are 3 generations of Native Montanans on this property involved in this operation.

I thought in your world that made him pristine and perfect. And everything he does is wonderful.

Reading comprehension always challenges most on the fire. Seems I always have to suffer a fool.

My high fence shooting comments had to do with replies to other post. Take a minute and read the entire thread then try and understand it. Same with my comments on domestics.


Then there is this:


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“Anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge about wild bighorn sheep understand the damage domestic sheep can do to the wild population

Being a transplant bothers you, doesn’t it?

Which has exactly less than zero to do with Schubarths. They don't have domestic sheep.