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To the interested group:

This is an interesting article from today with concerns expressed by the RCMP on the economic situation facing Canadians. In discussions with close friends we have agreed that things have to get much worse financially for the average Canadian before they would start to push back against the government.

It looks like the much worse is just about here.

I do not agree with the RCMP --- "Another major theme of the report is that Canadians are set to become increasingly disillusioned with their government, which authors mostly chalk up to “misinformation,” “conspiracy theories” and “paranoia.”

What is happening in Canada right now is the fault of the current government and in many ways the RCMP as well. If the RCMP had truly investigated SNC or handled Nova Scotia shootings differently instead of trying an underhanded approach to support the firearms legislation or if they had stepped in on any one of Trudeau ethics violations or handled the foreign police stations on Canadian soil then perhaps trust in the RCMP and the government would not be so eroded.

Perhaps there is some self examination by the authors of the report in the redacted sections but somehow I doubt this.



https://nationalpost.com/opinion/se...olt-once-they-realize-how-broke-they-are


Secret RCMP report warns Canadians may revolt once they realize how broke they are

Right from the get-go, the report authors warn that whatever Canada’s current situation, it 'will probably deteriorate further in the next five years'

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A secret RCMP report is warning the federal government that Canada may descend into civil unrest once citizens realize the hopelessness of their economic situation.

“The coming period of recession will … accelerate the decline in living standards that the younger generations have already witnessed compared to earlier generations,” reads the report, entitled Whole-of-Government Five-Year Trends for Canada.

“For example, many Canadians under 35 are unlikely ever to be able to buy a place to live,” it adds.

The report, labelled secret, is intended as a piece of “special operational information” to be distributed only within the RCMP and among “decision-makers” in the federal government.

A heavily redacted version was made public as a result of an access to information request filed by Matt Malone, an assistant professor of law at British Columbia’s Thompson Rivers University, and an expert in government secrecy.

Describing itself in an introduction as a “scanning exercise,” the report is intended to highlight trends in both Canada and abroad “that could have a significant effect on the Canadian government and the RCMP.”

Right from the get-go, the report authors warn that whatever Canada’s current situation, it “will probably deteriorate further in the next five years.”

In addition to worsening living standards, the RCMP also warns of a future increasingly defined by unpredictable weather and seasonal catastrophes, such as wildfires and flooding. Most notably, report authors warn of Canada facing “increasing pressure to cede Arctic territory.”

Another major theme of the report is that Canadians are set to become increasingly disillusioned with their government, which authors mostly chalk up to “misinformation,” “conspiracy theories” and “paranoia.”

“Law enforcement should expect continuing social and political polarization fueled by misinformation campaigns and an increasing mistrust for all democratic institutions,” reads one of the report’s “overarching considerations.”

Ironically, among the report’s more heavily redacted sections is one carrying the subtitle “erosion of trust.” “The past seven years have seen marked social and political polarization in the Western world” reads a partial first sentence, with the entire rest of the section deleted by government censors.

The censor’s pen also deleted most of a section warning about “paranoid populism.” “Capitalizing on the rise of political polarization and conspiracy theories have been populists willing to tailor their messages to appeal to extremist movements,” reads the section’s one non-redacted sentence.

In terms of declining living standards and inaccessible home ownership, the RCMP’s warnings are indeed in line with available statistics.

Canadian productivity — measured in terms of GDP per capita — has been trending downwards since at least the 1980s. But this has accelerated dramatically in recent years — even as per-worker productivity rises in many of our peer countries.

An analysis last year by University of Calgary economist Trevor Tombe found that if Canada had merely kept pace with U.S. productivity growth for the last five years, Canadian per-capita earnings would be $5,500 higher than they are now.

Meanwhile, housing affordability has reached “worst-ever” levels in most of Canada’s major markets, according to a December analysis by RBC. On average, even condos are now so unaffordable that only 44.5 per cent of Canadian households had sufficient income to buy one at current prices. As for single-family homes, only the richest 25 per cent of Canadian households had any hope of obtaining one.

“Economic forecasts for the next five years and beyond are bleak,” reads the RCMP’s assessment of the rest of the decade, even adding a quote from French President Emmanuel Macron that “the end of abundance” is nigh.



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We’ll have to thank the RCMP for drafting this nonsense in order to save us from Canadians that have become disillusioned with the government due to misinformation, conspiracy theories and paranoia. Basically, that would be describing myself. The Trudeau Liberals lost me in 2015. I feel as if my government is against me, my beliefs and way of life. I have to figure out why I feel this way, is it from misinformation, believing conspiracy theories or am I just paranoid? No, I’m pretty sure it’s because of Trudeau and his inability to govern this nation.

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Secret RCMP report warns Canadians may revolt once they realize how broke they are
Something in which they the RCMP have been completely complicit with the liberal gov't. Pretty much an admission of guilt now that they are afraid the people may have had enough.

Or are they warning the gov't that they should get prepared to administer the War Measures Act once again to quell any protest measures in advance.

Troubling either way.

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Good evening to you sir, I hope the day went well for you on your side of the big hills and you're well tonight.

For sure that little communique that Hugh posted is troubling any way we want to slice it.

It is, in my view, time for us out west to restart the Alberta and British Columbia Provincial Police forces. They have a proud history, they did wonderful work in the past and wouldn't be tied as close to the hip of Ottawa as the RCMP have become.

Between reports such as this, their obstruction and subterfuge in helping Socks' minions take our firearms away - the Nova Scotia shooting comes immediately to mind and even how completely useless they are with things like the SNC Lavalin investigation, it's time to restructure how we do policing in Canada.

We shall keep on working towards that end for sure, both on the federal and provincial political levels.

All the best.

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Good article with numbers on the impact carbon tax will have on fuels of all types. Note that the Liberals keep pushing a fantasy that a carbon tax will change the environment in Canada which will in turn reap benefits. Canada somehow must have moved into a sealed bubble chamber for the impacts from the higher non complaint nations to affect us.

Grits’ defence of carbon tax divorced from reality
Toronto Sun21 Mar 2024lgoldsteinpostmedia.com @sunlorrie


Correcting the Trudeau government’s political spin defending its carbon tax is like playing whack-amole.

You deal with one nonsensical claim and another pops up.

For example, the false impression the Liberals try to create that the carbon tax is mainly about the price of gasoline and home heating fuel.

In reality, the carbon tax increases the cost of 22 forms of fossil fuel energy.

That’s why it increases the cost of almost everything, because almost all goods and services are created using fossil fuels.

On April 1, the carbon tax increases by 23% to $80 per tonne of greenhouse gas emissions, up from $65, followed by annual hikes of $15 every April 1 until 2030, when it will be $170 per tonne.

The carbon tax will increase the cost of gasoline by 3 cents a litre to 17.61 cents on April 1, rising to 37.43 cents in 2030.

The cost of natural gas will increase by 2.86 cents per cubic metre, to 15.25 cents, rising to 32.40 cents in 2030.

Here’s the added cost of the carbon tax on 20 other fuels on April 1, and in 2030:

■ Propane: 12.38 cents/litre; 26.31 cents.

■ Aviation gasoline: 19.59 cents/ litre; 41.63 cents.

■ Aviation turbo fuel: 20.65 cents/ litre; 43.89 cents.

■ Butane: 14.24 cents/litre; 30.26

■ Coke: $254.38/tonne; $540.55.

■ Coke oven gas: 5.6 cents/cubic metre; 11.9 cents.

■ Combustible waste: $159.78/ tonne; $339.54.

■ Ethane: 8.15 cents/litre; 17.3 cents.

■ Gas liquids: 13.31 cents/litre; 28.28 cents.

■ Heavy fuel oil: 25.50 cents/litre; 54.19 cents.

■ High heat value coal: $178.48/ tonne; $379.28.

■ Kerosene: 20.65 cents/litre; 43.89 cents.

■ Light fuel oil (diesel): 21.39 cents/ litre; 45.45 cents.

■ Low heat value coal: $141.80/ tonne; $301.31.

■ Methanol: 8.78 cents/litre; 18.67 cents.

■ Naphtha: 18.03 cents/litre; 38.32 cents.

■ Non-marketable natural gas:

20.35 cents/cubic metre; 43.25 cents.

■ Petroleum coke: 30.18 cents/litre; 64.13 cents.

■ Pentanes plus: 14.24 cents/litre; 30.26 cents.

■ Still gas: 17.18 cents/cubic metre; 36.5 cents.

The Liberals say 80% of households in the eight provinces paying the carbon tax (Quebec and British Columbia have separate systems) receive more in rebates than they pay in carbon taxes.

But Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux says that, when the negative economic impact of the carbon tax is factored in, 60% pay more than they receive in rebates, rising to 80% in Nova Scotia in 2025, in Ontario in 2026, in Manitoba in 2029 and in Alberta and Prince Edward Island in 2030.

Here are the PBO’S estimated annual net costs (after rebates) for average households paying the carbon tax as of April 1, and in 2030: Alberta $911, $2,773; Ontario $627, $1,820; Saskatchewan $525, $1,723; Manitoba $502, $1,490; Nova Scotia $537, $1,513; P.E.I. $550, $1,521; Newfoundland and Labrador $377, $1,316.

New Brunswick joined the federal system after these estimates were completed, and the carbon tax carve-out for households using home heating oil temporarily reduces their costs for three years.

The Trudeau government argues the PBO didn’t factor in the economic costs of climate change.

But claiming the carbon tax will result in financial savings due to less severe weather in Canada by 2030, when our emissions at 1.5% of the global total don’t materially impact climate change, as the PBO notes, is absurd.

The government says the carbon tax is revenue neutral.

It’s not.

The government keeps the GST imposed on top of the carbon tax and hasn’t rebated billions of dollars promised to small businesses.

LORRIE GOLDSTEIN

Article Name:Grits’ defence of carbon tax divorced from reality
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The debate is live here now, or over on CPAC.

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If the carbon tax is revenue neutral, what was the point of instituting it to begin with.

Liars. Their disdain for the people is apparent in their actions and deceptions.

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Morning my friend, I see your light is on and hope all is well with you all up north.

As you know I'm active on a BC Hunting forum too and on a carbon tax thread there, threw up a few thoughts this morning.

One poster Olympia, mentioned how the "gloom and doom" cult has been proselytizing now for a half century and by all measures now hold sway in many government and I'd say most secondary educational facilities.

I do not use the term proselytizing lightly or by accident. Many or perhaps most of the practitioners of climate theology have rejected the concept of a higher power, a Deity if you will and have elevated themselves to that position as they plainly believe they - man - has the solutions.

Also and this is important, the more enlightened people are more valuable than those "below" them.

It's a caste system by any other name.

Thus when they suggest that Canadian farmers need to emit less carbon but do not even mention what the plan for replacing lost food production might be, we must all understand that IF Canadian farmers produce less food, people somewhere are going to starve.

IF an imaginary UFO came by and vacuumed up all of Canada, we read that less than 2% of global emissions would disappear with us.

Based upon the latest numbers available, here's a quick overview of seed crops production alone.....

Wheat 2022 - Canada is #7 in the world, producing 34.3 million metric tonnes

Canola 2023 - Canada is #1 in the world, producing 20.3 million metric tonnes - 23% of the world's Canola....

Barley 2022 - Canada is #5 in the world, producing 9.98 million metric tonnes.

We can go on and I'd urge individuals to do that.

Further, we need to understand that our entire population including the big cities is about what there is in California.

We produce more food per capita than any other country above us, so our farmers and the Dutch are some of the most efficient on the entire planet.

But we're the problem and we'll need to cut those nasty emissions.........

The farmer revolts in Europe are partially about carbon emissions and mandatory cuts to fertilizer use, just like Guilbealt attempted here.

If implemented, it will mean less food grown. Full stop.

So somebody goes hungry and a few million will die.

Meanwhile as another poster Jim said, we can't get an ambulance when we're at the Massey Tunnel - saw that on the news yesterday night. Guy had a stroke and waited for 9 hours.

Next story was 87 year old chap in Victoria spent 8 or 9 days in a hallway in the hospital because they're running at 103%.

Also on the news, the true believers in some Lower Mainland centers still want to stop natural gas going into new buildings - lower those carbon emissions you know - despite the fact that there is currently not enough power - FOR TODAY - much less to have no natural gas and everyone plugging in their Nissan Leaf or Ford Lightning tonight.

We, collectively, are being run by religious zealots in my view. Nothing less makes any sense whatsoever.

The same zealots who guide how legacy media reports to us, which questions they ask, which slogans they repeat.

One need only notice how Global, CTV and CBC anchors will use the same or eerily similar phrasing and terms to make the antennae perk up.

Can it be repaired is the question and the short answer is yes and further it's our responsibility to do so.

We were handed a functioning society and it's our duty to pass a working system down to our children and grand children.

Anyways, that's where I'm at this morning gentlemen.

As always anyone is free to disagree with me and cast aspersion upon my thought process.

All the best.

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100% agree.
The synagogue of Satan is my only explanation.

I believe Pete will make some things better, but much of what is happening will continue under Pete's watch, and until some of these people trip and fall, break their necks we will continue down the same path.

We will not pull out of this without God's intervention......God acting through people.

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Posted this in the campfire, as well.

Better name is The Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse

Credit to Ace of Spades, which also recommended this movie

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Good article in the Financial Post by Jack Mintz on Trudeau's legacy of making Canada a poorer nation that ties directly back to the carbon tax and other anti business developement policies.

My worry on coming out of the Trudeau socialist period is that not all provinces will be supportive on getting major projects moving forward once again in Canada.

If we are fortunate enough to get a new government it will be a difficult process re-writing policies, fighting the activist movement and the inertia of the federal civil service for the new government. Now add on top of that provinces like Quebec and BC where the provincial governments are clearly against resource development projects.

Having an expectation for a quick turn around of clearing up the Trudeau mess is very optomistic and in many ways unrealistic when a person considers the interest debt burden.

Here is the article

TRUDEAU'S LEGACY OF A POORER NATION,
National Post (National Edition)22 Mar 2024

This is a weekend in which prime ministers past and present are likely to be considering their legacies. Justin Trudeau can look back at a number of important policy initiatives in his almost nine years in office. He has done plenty of popular redistribution — subsidizing child care, child benefits, dental care and a skeletal pharmacare program, all paid for by rising corporate and marginal personal tax rates and higher debt. He can also claim credit for recovery from the COVID recession, though he did it with over-the-top, inflationary deficits.

He imposed social justice and carbon policy criteria throughout the government, whether in trade agreements and academic research grants or approvals for resource projects. Even federal budgets now contain a (rarely read) gender analysis, concocted no doubt by glassy-eyed civil servants holed up in windowless rooms.

Despite these achievements, the prime minister doesn't seem ready to leave. Saying “I couldn't be the man that I am and abandon the fight at this moment,” he has made clear he still has work to do pushing for women's and LGBTQ rights and fighting climate change.

He's certainly right, there is more work to be done — but not the kind he's thinking of. Canada is falling behind economically and it's getting worse. Eighth among OECD countries in per capita GDP in 1974, we are 14th today. From 2015, when the Liberals were elected, to 2022 our GDP per capita fell from 78.6 per cent of U.S. levels to 72.8 per cent. Relative to the G7 average (the favourite comparison for a finance minister), it fell from 92 per cent in 2015 to 88 per cent in 2022.

As Trevor Tombe of the University of Calgary has shown, almost all of Canada is now poor by U.S. standards. British Columbia (average per capita income of $US57,000), Ontario (US$55,000) and Quebec ($US51,000) are at roughly the same level as West Virginia (US$54,000), South Carolina (US$56,000) and Alabama (US$55,000). Only Alberta (US$80,000) lies closer to the top — though it ranks only 14th among the 60 states and provinces. Saskatchewan (US$71,000) is second in Canada but 25th in North America.

If he does stay on, Justin Trudeau's eventual legacy may be to have made us poorer than the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi at US$47,000. Continuing with the same anti-growth framework of the past nine years will eventually achieve that. Expand the federal civil service by another 40 per cent so they can dream up even more inefficient programs while working from the comfort of home. Keep hiring by woke criteria rather than merit. Impose even more regulations and taxes to discourage entrepreneurship, investment and growth. Encourage more emigration of our talented and well-educated workers to countries offering now much higher after-tax incomes.

Some of our decline is the result of ideologically driven emissions reduction. An energy transition that shifts resources from our highest value-added sector — oilsands, where VA is almost $1,000 per production hour — to manufacturing and other sectors where it is less than a tenth that is obviously going to be very costly. But we don't have to deliberately make it even worse than it has to be, as we did by failing to provide European allies with multibillion-dollar liquefied natural gas exports to replace Russian gas. After we bailed on Germany, she went to the U.S. and Qatar (not her longtime ally). And, yes, she did sign the memorandum of understanding we insisted on regarding Canadian hydrogen, which at best will play a minor role in her energy needs.

The prime minister is also pouring money into EV and renewables projects that will certainly enrich both foreign and domestic investors in these projects — so much for our concern about inequality — but are far from certain to result in viable production. At the same time, he is piling higher energy costs onto consumers and businesses with new clean fuel regulations, emissions caps and mandates for clean electricity and EV sales. These non-price interventions are contrary to his recently declared preference for the “cleaner ... market-based solution” that is the carbon tax. That tax is now in intensive care after he exempted heating oil to gain more political support in the Atlantic provinces.

The Trudeau government's lack of focus on economic growth will hurt Canada. Bloated, inflationary federal spending on a featherbedded civil service, combined with poorly designed subsidy programs, leave little money for critical federal responsibilities. We have downgraded our military, which hardly has a working tugboat or jet to its name. We haven't yet been kicked out of NATO for failing to live up to our commitments but we are no longer on speed dial with our U.S., U.K. and Australian allies, who are building next-generation nuclear submarines together. Immigration has become our de facto growth policy. Yet we don't have adequate housing or public services to support the large numbers coming here. And our health care is ailing, with long wait times, not enough doctors and nurses and emergency triage that needs to be fixed.

Whoever is prime minister in the next few years does have their work cut out for them, but not on more climate and woke rights policies. The challenge will be to reverse an economic slide that is seeing us lose investment and our best and brightest to the rest of the world.

KEEP HIRING BY WOKE CRITERIA RATHER THAN MERIT.

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I am waiting for some "journalist" to ask him how much CO2 has been reduced in the atmosphere by his carbon tax.

The answer, of course, is none - it is growing, and will continue to grow forever, as long as China and India stay on the path of industrialization - which neither will ever abandon, either for the welfare of their people or the welfare of their economy.

The "carbon tax" is just an excuse to raise taxes, with a goal to impoverish the average man and turn Canada into a socialist/welfare state where the elite have total power.


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Originally Posted by czech1022
The "carbon tax" is just an excuse to raise taxes, with a goal to impoverish the average man and turn Canada into a socialist/welfare state where the elite have total power.

There it is folks, in a nut shell.

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Wannabebwana --- thanks for that video. Long watch but well worth it.

The last ten minutes pretty much sums up where we are at with the government in Canada



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I agree with your opinion HughW, that there will not be any quick solutions to the state in which Trudeau’s liberals have left this country in. If Pollievre should form the next government the true state of our national finances will be revealed and it will be crippling. We may never recover from this as an intact nation or even remain a G7 nation. That will be Trudeau’s legacy.

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Wannabe; excellent movie. Thanks for the link !!

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Wannabe;
Good almost evening for us and already for you.

Thanks so much for posting the video sir.

Holy smoke that's sobering to say the least.

Have posted it on another forum after watching it.

Best to you all this weekend.

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Originally Posted by Nick1899
We’ll have to thank the RCMP for drafting this nonsense in order to save us from Canadians that have become disillusioned with the government due to misinformation, conspiracy theories and paranoia. Basically, that would be describing myself. The Trudeau Liberals lost me in 2015. I feel as if my government is against me, my beliefs and way of life. I have to figure out why I feel this way, is it from misinformation, believing conspiracy theories or am I just paranoid? No, I’m pretty sure it’s because of Trudeau and his inability to govern this nation.

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You actually voted liberal at one time?

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You actually voted liberal at one time?[/quote]


Yikes, never. Trudeau lost my support/belief in the government. I still think Harper was one our best PMs.

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Originally Posted by Nick1899
You actually voted liberal at one time?


Yikes, never. Trudeau lost my support/belief in the government. I still think Harper was one our best PMs.

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