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Another factor with E-bikes is that many of their operators are those who cannot get a driver's license or are otherwise precluded from operating a motor vehicle.

And of course we hold that value set wrt motorists who mow down cyclists, right?

We walk our dogs on a local multi-use trial for hikers/bikes/horses and the bikers come out of nowhere and make little effort to slow, mostly if we are really alert we have just enough time to pull our dogs aside and make way for the spandex bunch who have the attitude that they have the right of way, they don't! Before Paul tells me how biased I am, I've bought five bikes from local shops over the last decade but have mostly given up riding due to the azzwipes that fancy it in my city and they dangers of riding on the road. As far as I know, they rules for biking on multi-use trails suggest that they must ride under control and yield to horses and walkers.

And of course we hold that value set wrt motorists who mow down cyclists, right? - if the motorist is negligent or "at fault" then yes. Most roads in the US were designed for autos, not bikes. Just because the law says you "can" ride on the road doesn't mean you "should"!

Does that mean we can hit cyclists as long as we honk our horns first and/or yell?

Deflection ALLERT

This thread is about a selfish 62 YO bicyclist that killed a 81 YO woman pedestrian.

Typical 81 yr old when “on your left” is yelled

“….huh!! Duhhh….where am I, why I am here….I’m no Jack Kennedy, I like ice cream, our La Salle ran great….


By then….. it’s




A lot of micro processes have to occur in the oldster’s cob webbed synapses

Show proof of that broad assertion.

Why must pedestrians give way to cyclists?
Can't the cyclists ride behind them, until safe to pass ?

Typical 81 yr old when “on your left” is yelled

“….huh!! Duhhh….where am I, why I am here….I’m no Jack Kennedy, I like ice cream, our La Salle ran great….


By then….. it’s




A lot of micro processes have to occur in the oldster’s cob webbed synapses

If I am the approaching vehicle and someone legally on the road ahead of me is travelling slower than me (bicycle or pedestrians included) and I run into or over the one in front of me it is almost assured that I am at fault. Bicyclists use this to their advantage all the time.

I have investigated many boating accidents and in every case the boat that was approaching from behind and collided with a watercraft going the same direction the overtaking boat operator was at fault.

I haven't read this whole discussion but I'm assuming the old woman didn't jump out in front of the bicycle when she turned to look. Sounds as if the bicycle was going to barely miss her at best if she hadn't turned to look.

Retard alert. Another retard has chimed in.

Show me proof of the broad assertion that the OP wanted to limit the discussion to that. It's certainly not in the OP nor is it a norm in internet discussions to keep the conversation very narrowly focused. Given that you have flighty values, I can certainly see why my comment made you uncomfortable.

Umm, no. They were not designed FOR motorists. They were designed for multi-modal transportation. Period. Laws and signage make this abundantly clear. They were designed with passengers vehicles as the most common denominator. Why wouldn't they be?

How does this sound? Just because you "can" walk on the mult-use path doesn't mean you "should."

I bought one of the loudest most obnoxious bike alarm that I could find. I don't race up sidewalks, I'll give them a warning blast when I'm about 100' away. Kinda funny to watch them jump out of their skin. I'm usually out riding when it’s just breaking daylight so seeing walkers/joggers is fairly rare.
And if someone wants to get obnoxious with a walking stick there's a can of bear spray within arm's reach...

Bicyclist blames Pedestrian...

A man on a bike hit an 81-year-old woman walking on the Four Mile Run trail, ARLnow reports, and the woman subsequently died of the injuries. Do we need better consensus on how to alert pedestrians to passing cyclists?

The 62-year-old cyclist was heading down a hill and shouted “on your left” to warn the woman. Instead of either moving right or just being alert, she apparently turned around in a way that moved to the left, while exclaiming “what?” The cyclist then struck her, she fell, and her head hit the ground.

Update: ARLnow is now also reporting that the cyclist rang a bell as well as calling out. (and that means the bicyclist has no culpability says our resident vegan bicyclist)

Whether or not this particular cyclist did something wrong, the first rule always must be that people riding bikes need to be careful around pedestrians. Daniel Hoagland, WABA’s Bicycle Ambassador, wrote in an email:
Pedestrians are unpredictable and vulnerable, which is a bad combination (and doesn’t even get into things like pets and children and the mobility-impaired), and bicyclists should be prepared to slow down to whatever speed is necessary to ensure that they can react safely to whatever a pedestrian does.

Well golly Sparky, try this. Type "Ride E-bike no driver's license" into the search engine of your choice and read the returns 'til your heart's content. You'll find that people with suspended licenses often turn to them. You'll find that people too young to get a license turn to them. Twist the search a little and and you'll see that people who cannot afford a car often use an E-Bike as primary transportation.

I look forward to another goddam stupid response. If nothing else, you are predictable in your dumbassery.