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I seem to remember an assassination several decades ago where our Intel agencies said “there is no proof”, “anyone that claims otherwise is a conspiracy nut” and poof like magic they lied.

I also seem to remember just a few short months ago that 50+ former US Intel operatives signed a letter stating that The Hunter Laptop was 100% Bullschit and Russian Disinformation, and poof like magic, there is proof and proof they lied.

So, you do you and believe our Deep State and our Intel Community is honest and chucked full of integrity.

Interesting. Thanks for the response.

This from some Navy guys I talked to yesterday and some local guys here who made a living on the Great Lakes. I'm 90 and 30 minutes from Fincantierti Marine's 2 shipyards here. We've got a lot of boat people in the area.

All of our theories and speculation are fun, but I would bet on much more simple and common mechanical failure.
There is one thing that I would bet will be looked at by the investigating agencies...did the Dali take on fuel while in Baltimore? Of course we have no way of knowing, but there are many grades of marine diesel (Not like your diesel, it's a blend of diesel #2 and heavy fuel oil))...and moneywise of course, the owners buy the lowest grades and prices. It's up to the ships engineers to make the fuel work, by filtering, settling and or centrifuging. It's nasty stuff, often containing the dregs of the refinery or at least sediments from the bottoms of dirty storage tanks.
Fuel contamination for a dollar Alex.

Absolutely not. I don’t believe anything coming from them, but that doesn’t require me to believe something different from what I saw with my own eyes.

I've heard this a lot too - fuel explains the loss of power/mechanical failure that some people just are completely unable to understand DOES happen without a "cyber attack", while simultaneously bemoaning how expensive it is to fix their Ford in the driveway and Mercury OB on the bass boat. Never making the connection.

Agreed...

Lotta freight goes thru that Port.

Do t believe everything you think

I hear ya...

I used to live aboard my ketch in Pasadena (Maryland Yacht Club)... traffic in your zone is gonna be a double fiasco for a long time I suspect.

I'll do me and be happy, you do you and blame the world for your inadequacies.

I find it interesting that exactly ZERO of my former intelligence co-workers, who continued working at the 3 letter agency that doesn't get named after I left said work - don't buy the cyber attack at all.

Here’s a clue,

The Biden Administration claimed there was no evidence of foul play, or terrorist activity, within a few hours of the collision.

That be some quick top notch investigators there, that God Biden and his Administration are that good.

VERY NARROW and specific channel.



Once again... you are talking out of your ass Stevie Wonder...

You ever own a boat? Electronics and water are not friends. Chit tears up on boats. Boats don’t have disc brakes.

I thought the loop the ship made when it first got underway was strange, but that map explains the course completely.

What did we see? It’s hard to say without knowing what went on. I mean if you look, the first turn towards the support happened immediately before the power went out the first time. Then the big one came immediately after it came back on. It looks to me like if the power had stayed off, it would have slid right under that bridge.

Once again, I don’t know what happen and an accident is the likeliest thing but looks can be deceiving and are heavily influenced by what you decide to believe. For instance, if you were in a car and someone hacked it and you couldn’t control the steering, what would you do? You know what you would do, you would try to put it in neutral or turn off the engine. So, what if the ship were hacked and the crew tried to turn off the power? Then, when the auxiliary power came back on, the hacker still had control and steered it into the pylons. I’m not saying that happened, but if it had, it would probably look like what we saw in that video.

I don’t know that any of this happened, but it could. We have the strongest military on earth but we are so vulnerable in so many ways. And as for a hacker knowing exactly what would happen or how the ship and crew would react, who says he did if it happened? I suspect that to the extent there is cyber frickery going on with our infrastructure, a lot of it is pretty random to just see it any damage can be done. For all we know, this could have been the fifteenth time in the last year something similar had happened but nothing bad happened until now. With our current government, I wouldn’t rely upon the to tell us or fix the problem.

Exactly... The navigation is damn tricky...

This video was the Evergreen grounding 2 year ago near Annapolis... I think it took over a month to get her free.

Cargo ship mapping on the bay... Zoom out to see nationwide stuff.

http://www.shiptraffic.net/marine-traffic/bays/Chesapeake_Bay

I agree with you about our vunerabilities and about our dishonest government and press. All I’m saying is that if you’ve ever operated a boat, what we see happen in the video makes perfect sense for an equipment malfunction.

Biden is an idiot, but:

He spoke more than 11 hours after the incident; said that it appeared to be an accident; and said that "there is no other information that it was intentional."

He didn't say that everyone was 100% certain that it was not intentional at that point. He simply said that there was no information to suggest that it was intentional at that point. Without any information suggesting that it was intentional, most people are going to assume that a collision is accidental. Of course, just because green space aliens killed JFK, you can assume, if you want, that they also caused an unfortunate allision where the ship obviously had lost power.

Sure it does. But wouldn’t you like to hear from the pilot? Wouldn’t you like an actual explanation?