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The pure blood patriot derp squad have unsurprisingly stumbled upon yet another conspiracy.
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As far as I know there has been no official release of any info, right? We don’t even know that the power went out. Everyone is just assuming since the lights went out correct?
By now they have a basic understanding of what happened. They should release some preliminary details. Everyone knows that there is a lot of investigation to go, but by now they at least know what the pilot and crew say happened.
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As far as I know there has been no official release of any info, right? We don’t even know that the power went out. Everyone is just assuming since the lights went out correct?
By now they have a basic understanding of what happened. They should release some preliminary details. Everyone knows that there is a lot of investigation to go, but by now they at least know what the pilot and crew say happened. What is the likelihood of a lawsuit or two stemming from this incident?
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As far as I know there has been no official release of any info, right? We don’t even know that the power went out. Everyone is just assuming since the lights went out correct?
By now they have a basic understanding of what happened. They should release some preliminary details. Everyone knows that there is a lot of investigation to go, but by now they at least know what the pilot and crew say happened. Not sure if there is an official statement, but Maryland Governor Wes Moore has stated in interviews that the power went out on the ship.
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As far as I know there has been no official release of any info, right? We don’t even know that the power went out. Everyone is just assuming since the lights went out correct?
By now they have a basic understanding of what happened. They should release some preliminary details. Everyone knows that there is a lot of investigation to go, but by now they at least know what the pilot and crew say happened. What is the likelihood of a lawsuit or two stemming from this incident? People died, insurance companies are going to pay billions, there will be a dozen at least.
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Any idea of replacement cost?
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Any idea of replacement cost?
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The fire conspiracy theorists have their tin foil hats screwed on tight for this one as expected.
The NTSB will sort it out, and they usually don't make statements until their ducks are in a row.
But not on here. keep the comments coming. Great entertainment!
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Our distinguished leader has informed us that the 'Government' will pay the entire cost!
The 'Government'........has NO MONEY!!
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All of our theories and speculation are fun, but I would bet on much more simple and common mechanical failure. There is one thing that I would bet will be looked at by the investigating agencies...did the Dali take on fuel while in Baltimore? Of course we have no way of knowing, but there are many grades of marine diesel (Not like your diesel, it's a blend of diesel #2 and heavy fuel oil))...and moneywise of course, the owners buy the lowest grades and prices. It's up to the ships engineers to make the fuel work, by filtering, settling and or centrifuging. It's nasty stuff, often containing the dregs of the refinery or at least sediments from the bottoms of dirty storage tanks. Fuel contamination for a dollar Alex. You have a very good point, flintlocke. Naturally, they will get a tankful there in Baltimore. Five minutes after the fill-up, the boat conks out. Quite the coincidence.
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Our distinguished leader has informed us that the 'Government' will pay the entire cost!
The 'Government'........has NO MONEY!! It's in the Government and public's interest to have this bridge rebuilt ASAP. Waiting on the insurances to figure things out for 8 years and THEN start a rebuild - doesn't make sense. .Gov steps in - pays, gets the bridge replaced ASAP and then takes the money from the insurance. That's the preferred event. Will that happen? Dunno.
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Our distinguished leader has informed us that the 'Government' will pay the entire cost!
The 'Government'........has NO MONEY!! Lol. That doesn't stop them from giving billions we don't have to the Ukes!
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All of our theories and speculation are fun, but I would bet on much more simple and common mechanical failure. There is one thing that I would bet will be looked at by the investigating agencies...did the Dali take on fuel while in Baltimore? Of course we have no way of knowing, but there are many grades of marine diesel (Not like your diesel, it's a blend of diesel #2 and heavy fuel oil))...and moneywise of course, the owners buy the lowest grades and prices. It's up to the ships engineers to make the fuel work, by filtering, settling and or centrifuging. It's nasty stuff, often containing the dregs of the refinery or at least sediments from the bottoms of dirty storage tanks. Fuel contamination for a dollar Alex. You have a very good point, flintlocke. Naturally, they will get a tankful there in Baltimore. Five minutes after the fill-up, the boat conks out. Quite the coincidence. Pure speculation on my part, it may be even simpler than I suggested. Dirty fuel is the norm. It is customary to draw fuel from the ship's storage tanks, double bottoms, to what is called a 'day tank'...nothing more than a small tank quantity (maybe 40,000 gal) sufficient to operate for 36 hours, the day tank fuel is then drained of water, sediment and may be centrifuged, but always strained and filtered before it goes to the engines. That's normal...it's what they do. But, because of the solitary nature of seagoing life, crew is desperate to get off the ship for a few hours, and a good skipper and chief engineer make sure that happens whenever possible. In the confusion of juggling schedules, the ever present possibility that some crew will return to the ship unfit for duty (Exxon Valdez)....sometimes important schidt doesn't get done, or done by someone impaired. It happens. This is where I venture into fantasy...it's entirely possible the day tank was pumped full, but the fuel was not cleaned, and that was not noted in the engine room log...or was noted and missed by the engineer who had the duty when Dali departed. Big gulps of water or sediment overwhelmed the first filter bank, the engines (generator or main or both) died, the filter system was frantically shifted to the second redundancy bank, which promptly plugged and the second failure was the kill shot. This literally can happen in minutes. It has happened to me as chief engineer on a tug, when a split weld opened in the hull in a double bottom tank and all I could get was seawater into the day tank. Fortunately we had a cool head for a skipper, and he prepared for worst scenario immediately...no damage to vessels, crew other than embarrassment. And finally, my original assessment at the first hours, complete failure of the electrical system...whether at the main bus or switchgear. Rare but it happens.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Our distinguished leader has informed us that the 'Government' will pay the entire cost!
The 'Government'........has NO MONEY!! It's in the Government and public's interest to have this bridge rebuilt ASAP. Waiting on the insurances to figure things out for 8 years and THEN start a rebuild - doesn't make sense. .Gov steps in - pays, gets the bridge replaced ASAP and then takes the money from the insurance. That's the preferred event. Will that happen? Dunno. That’s how it works. Been there, done that. The contractor makes bank on these projects!
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Our distinguished leader has informed us that the 'Government' will pay the entire cost!
The 'Government'........has NO MONEY!! It's in the Government and public's interest to have this bridge rebuilt ASAP. Waiting on the insurances to figure things out for 8 years and THEN start a rebuild - doesn't make sense. .Gov steps in - pays, gets the bridge replaced ASAP and then takes the money from the insurance. That's the preferred event. Will that happen? Dunno. That’s how it works. Been there, done that. The contractor makes bank on these projects! Contractor actually does something resembling work, the kickbacks to politicos is where the real bucks are.
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people that text all day get on my nerves
just knowing that people are out there with that ability,....just makes me wanna punch myself in the balls
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And by the way, if port is left and starboard is right, then thatvbow went to the starboard side as giewed from the perspective of the pilot. Exactly as I said - full reverse on a single screw prop walks the ship's stern to port - pushing the bow starboard in perspective. They dropped the port anchor which would also cause a veer. If the 55000 hp figure is correct there is still a lag. A drag boat this ain't. Anyone know the winddirection?
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I guessed from the black smoke I saw the wind was from port to starboard , give or take!
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And by the way, if port is left and starboard is right, then thatvbow went to the starboard side as giewed from the perspective of the pilot. Exactly as I said - full reverse on a single screw prop walks the ship's stern to port - pushing the bow starboard in perspective. They dropped the port anchor which would also cause a veer. If the 55000 hp figure is correct there is still a lag. A drag boat this ain't. Anyone know the winddirection? Dropping anchor ain't gonna stop it dead in it's tracks.
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As far as I know there has been no official release of any info, right? We don’t even know that the power went out. Everyone is just assuming since the lights went out correct?
By now they have a basic understanding of what happened. They should release some preliminary details. Everyone knows that there is a lot of investigation to go, but by now they at least know what the pilot and crew say happened. The lights and engine stopped when the power went out twice The Baltimore FBI office determined that is was an accident 6 hours after the incident with no investigation lol Move along now
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