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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Wife had some of them delphiniums...they wouldn't stop no ship I ever seen...I wouldn't eat one, even with tunny...but the deer liked 'em.

Used to go to our town's yard waste facility and scoop up any hostas people dropped off in the fall. Deer went nuts for them. That and broccoli.


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dangit all to hell, y'all are gettin off topic again.

I have a hard time with delphinimums. But the deers can't get them unless they get over a 6' fence and the whippets won't like that one bit.


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Time for more tunnels..


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Originally Posted by GeoW
Time for more tunnels..

The bridge was the approved Hazmat and oversize or over-dimensional route that services the harbor. Regulations state - no Hazmat in tunnels for obvious reasons. OD/OS - same issues.


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She's full of crap.

Yeah but she has GREAT TITS..

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Next bridge will be built with dolphins and I bet they review all others and require them for old bridges without.
Ive already made it known that I do NOT know jack chit about this kind of thing lol. What are dolphins?

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Originally Posted by Teal
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Next bridge will be built with dolphins and I bet they review all others and require them for old bridges without.
Ive already made it known that I do NOT know jack chit about this kind of thing lol. What are dolphins?

Large bumpers basically in the water on both the inbound/downbound side. Usually round and concrete from ones I've seen.
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Next bridge will be built with dolphins and I bet they review all others and require them for old bridges without.
Ive already made it known that I do NOT know jack chit about this kind of thing lol. What are dolphins?

Large bumpers basically in the water on both the inbound/downbound side. Usually round and concrete from ones I've seen.


Big concrete ones below some of the dams on the Columbia/Snake.

Lots of wooden, piling types everywhere.

Big bumpers is right and sometimes a place to tie off and wait for traffic to clear so you can proceed.
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Melons are overrated.

You must be a Coast Guard guy...
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So, when that bridge was built the average freighter was probably…what…40,000 tons? Bumpers, dolphins, whatever you call them should probably be included in the design of any new bridge. Because it seems like the odds are nearly one hundred percent that a ship that loses power for whatever reason while transiting through there is apt to hit that bridge. Should probably plan on it happening again.

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TEU wise - when built, the ships were about 1/3 the size of the Dali. BUT that port handles more than just container ships.

Per this - don't know how accurate, average ship tonnage in 1970 was a hair over 200k

Tonnage.


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Modern machines are complex and sh!!!t happens. Bring on more of those conspiracy theorists, never ending.

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Modern machines are complex and sh!!!t happens. Bring on more of those conspiracy theorists, never ending.




Agree morons that buy into crazy psyops

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So those are two men that you want on your side.

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If we still have the people that know how, maybe they will consider a suspension bridge this time...something like Verrazano-Narrows or Golden Gate.
Skip the dolphins and sheer walls.
The Hoover bypass bridge was farmed out to Oyabashi...after many f...kups and a fatality...it was eventually completed. We could always hire the Japs again.


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Originally Posted by flintlocke
If we still have the people that know how, maybe they will consider a suspension bridge this time...something like Verrazano-Narrows or Golden Gate.
Skip the dolphins and sheer walls.
The Hoover bypass bridge was farmed out to Oyabashi...after many f...kups and a fatality...it was eventually completed. We could always hire the Japs again.
Maybe they learned their lessons about winds in that canyon after a measly gust took all four of their tower cranes down and forced traffic to detour around the dam for awhile? Including me having to take a 4-5 hour trip to get home from work instead of 45 minutes or so?

But, as it stands now it's a kinda nice bridge.


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As said before - power comes back on, the ship's hard turn is actually prop walk due to it being single screw. Full astern will cause the stern to swing to port, essentially lining the ship/effectively bow to starboard. It's a physics thing.

Your theory makes sense, Teal. But are you not believing the reports that the propulsion never came back on, and the black smoke was from the backup generator?

This engineer HERE has said that the smoke isn't diesel generator out the stack but main propulsion as fuel pressure comes up.

Again, it all makes sense. But that Commentary by Buckley III talks about the "Captain" doing all kinds of things. Is he meaning to refer to the Pilot? And the NTSB, I think, is saying that the Pilot recognized that the propulsion was out, never came back, and the only order he gave was to drop the port anchor. Perhaps that's wrong, but, as gifted as Buckley III may be, he wasn't there, and I assume the Captain wasn't issuing orders. Again, I could be wrong.

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I think the train tracks on the bridge over stressed it.😳


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The Environmental Disaster here is very concerning, the most concerning. At least the air pollution is abated temporarily. Imagine the state of the disturbed seabed at this moment? We must be very careful. Get this right!

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