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The thing that has kept running through my mind since this bridge disaster took place is not really who, how or why but the after effects. I imagine every suicide nut case that hates the USA has in mind how nice it would be to cause such a thing to happen. Imagine the mayhem if they could knock out every bridge over the Mississippi. Wouldn't take a big ship to do it either.
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Sounds plausible. I thought it might be just a horrible accident accidents like that are unlikely. Too much money at stake.
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The thing that has kept running through my mind since this bridge disaster took place is not really who, how or why but the after effects. I imagine every suicide nut case that hates the USA has in mind how nice it would be to cause such a thing to happen. Imagine the mayhem if they could knock out every bridge over the Mississippi. Wouldn't take a big ship to do it either. Why bother with bridges? How secure is your local electrical substation..............even the great big ones near powerplants???
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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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If I had to choose who is more credible,I would most certainly choose someone who has a considerable amount of documented work in this area,than someone on the internet. You do you, this is a load of crap.
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The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. A person stated that if you hack the GPS you control the ship. The GPS provides instructions to the engine room. You still didn't watch this War Room segment,did you? You also didn't mention that McCabe claimed this was an accident early yesterday morning.
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If I had to choose who is more credible,I would most certainly choose someone who has a considerable amount of documented work in this area,than someone on the internet. You do you, this is a load of crap. Sure I'll take your word for it. NOT!
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The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. A person stated that if you hack the GPS you control the ship. The GPS provides instructions to the engine room. You still didn't watch this War Room segment,did you? You also didn't mention that McCabe claimed this was an accident early yesterday morning. GPS doesn't shut off the lights, power and aux power. That's the point the GUYS WHO BUILD THE BOATS TOLD ME. THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. AGAIN, at the SOURCE of the BOAT ITSELF. GPS would contact engine room to run the rudder which is NOT the same as the propulsion which was not working when it went dark. The smoke- per them is the restart and full astern once back on-line.
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The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. A person stated that if you hack the GPS you control the ship. The GPS provides instructions to the engine room. You still didn't watch this War Room segment,did you? You also didn't mention that McCabe claimed this was an accident early yesterday morning. GPS doesn't shut off the lights, power and aux power. That's the point the GUYS WHO BUILD THE BOATS TOLD ME. THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. AGAIN, at the SOURCE of the BOAT ITSELF. GPS would contact engine room to run the rudder which is NOT the same as the propulsion which was not working when it went dark. The smoke- per them is the restart and full astern once back on-line. Also, I assume that there is no way the port pilots are navigating off GPS alone, if at all.
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The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. A person stated that if you hack the GPS you control the ship. The GPS provides instructions to the engine room. You still didn't watch this War Room segment,did you? You also didn't mention that McCabe claimed this was an accident early yesterday morning. GPS doesn't shut off the lights, power and aux power. That's the point the GUYS WHO BUILD THE BOATS TOLD ME. THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. AGAIN, at the SOURCE of the BOAT ITSELF. GPS would contact engine room to run the rudder which is NOT the same as the propulsion which was not working when it went dark. The smoke- per them is the restart and full astern once back on-line. Also, I assume that there is no way the port pilots are navigating off GPS alone, if at all. And maybe life is different on those giant, new, container vessels but I can't imagine any skipper allowing GPS to run his vessel (even if completely capable of doing so) in a harbor with bridges, ship traffic, recreational vessels, fishing vessels, etc. Any more than I'd expect any airline pilot to put the autopilot on when leaving the tarmac and not also having the ability to control his ship.
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In it is death and all you seek
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The ship is registered in Singapore,chartered by the Danish company Maersk but owned by Grace Ocean and managed by Synergy Marine out Hong Kong according to the Maritime Executive.
You still didn't watch the War Room segment.
How about McCabe claiming it wasn't terrorism when he couldn't have definitively known this less than six hours after the collision.
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Of course, it’s hackable. It’s a 1000 foot, 100,000 ton ship built in 2015 with a 22 man crew. A ship that big and new with a crew small is going to be heavily computerized. If it has an internet connection, it’s hackable.
Doesn’t mean it was, but these days someone can hack you toaster. Fitzgerald was 730 feet, just as heavy and only had a crew of 29, built in '58. There's computerization - sure. But you also mentioned something rather important - is propulsion connected to the internet? and can you even get a signal buried under 100k tons of steel and 9k TEUs on deck and does it make sense to do that attack at 1am when it's LEAST likely to create loss of life? Like I said - boat guys here are saying - nope. Stop. Is there a mechanical linkage from the bridge to the rudder? No? Of course, not in a ship that large. An electric signal goes from A to B…from micro processor to microprocessor. It’s hackable. As for making sense. Bro, don’t be stupid. If it were a cyber attack, the point is not to kill people on the bridge. That’s an afterthought. The point is to bring the bridge down and shut down the port for the next year. Yep if the ships computers are connected to the internet it is hackable. Odd these simpletons can't seem to understand the obvious. IF connected - that's the fugging point. And IF the ones connected ALSO connect to propulsion. I get drive by wire, I work for a SaaS company specializing in transportation AI, ML and automation - I get what's possible. It's just not probably on this. What I am saying is the odds that the internet connected computers are ALSO connected to both ship power, and propulsion AND were hacked at 1am in the middle of a river through the faraday cage that is an all metal ship with TEUs all over it and THEN being able to take positive control, shut down the power - completely time the wind, tides, boat speed and channel water speed to create a 100k ton Fast and Furious Tokyo drift - while ALSO allowing coms to the bridge to tell them to close it and hit the bridge - yep. That's the MOST LIKELY event. /sarc Again - the guys I talked to last night who build the damned things say this - not gonna happen. The intelligence officers I know and have known for 2 decades agree. Like zero thought has ever been put into place over the last 20+ years about the possibility and precautions taken. JFC - this isn't someone figuring out your yahoo account email. So under no circumstance could this have been the work of a bad actor? I'm sure that the people who put effort and time into figuring out how to remote control ships, cars, MSNBC brain scans might have capabilities we don't know about. How about someone who has been on board? One of the videos I watched showed the ship to veer starboard and hit the bridge pillar just a bit off center. It takes a lot to turn a ship that big. Interesting that it is registered in Singapore. MV Dali is a Singapore-registered container ship completed in 2015 and owned by Grace Ocean Pte Ltd. As of March 2024, the vessel was chartered by Maersk and managed and operated by Synergy Marine Group.[3] On 26 March 2024, the ship collided with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland, United States, causing a catastrophic structural failure of the bridge in which up to seven people may have died.[7][8] Of interest Synergy Marine group manages and operates the MV Dali. Main office is in Singapore. https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/about/diversity-and-inclusion/As an organization aspiring to excellence, issues related to diversity are a high priority at Synergy. We realize that the benefits of diversity are best achieved by fostering greater inclusion and belonging. We will continue to attract, hire, and retain a diverse workforce because that is a key source of good ideas, and talented applicants will be drawn to work with us. But hiring for diversity alone is not enough. We want to ensure that our employees can bring their full selves to work – that they can belong in the fullest sense to the community inside the organization. At Synergy we want a workplace that is truly characterized by inclusion and belonging. Diversity for us is more about the variety of our thoughts as a team. Although diversity can be created through deliberate hiring practices, inclusion may not automatically follow. We want our entire workforce to appreciate and show sensitivity to the cultural, and any other, differences that exist in our teams, as well as among the people we interact with in our daily business. We strive to create an environment where everyone feels they belong.
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The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. A person stated that if you hack the GPS you control the ship. The GPS provides instructions to the engine room. You still didn't watch this War Room segment,did you? You also didn't mention that McCabe claimed this was an accident early yesterday morning. GPS doesn't shut off the lights, power and aux power. That's the point the GUYS WHO BUILD THE BOATS TOLD ME. THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED. AGAIN, at the SOURCE of the BOAT ITSELF. GPS would contact engine room to run the rudder which is NOT the same as the propulsion which was not working when it went dark. The smoke- per them is the restart and full astern once back on-line. Also, I assume that there is no way the port pilots are navigating off GPS alone, if at all. And maybe life is different on those giant, new, container vessels but I can't imagine any skipper allowing GPS to run his vessel (even if completely capable of doing so) in a harbor with bridges, ship traffic, recreational vessels, fishing vessels, etc. Any more than I'd expect any airline pilot to put the autopilot on when leaving the tarmac and not also having the ability to control his ship. Odd China is written all over ownership and management. Accident? If Joey says so. https://www.sgpbusiness.com/company/Grace-Ocean-Private-Limited#Corporate-Profile
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The thing that has kept running through my mind since this bridge disaster took place is not really who, how or why but the after effects. I imagine every suicide nut case that hates the USA has in mind how nice it would be to cause such a thing to happen. Imagine the mayhem if they could knock out every bridge over the Mississippi. Wouldn't take a big ship to do it either. Why bother with bridges? How secure is your local electrical substation..............even the great big ones near powerplants??? Very true. Lots of ways to wreak havoc and destroy things. So far one of the largest amount of destruction has been done internally by our own people in government. They have managed to destroy the public trust.
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This incident sure has brought out the Q queers. as opposed to the kw kweers?
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I know a lot of conspiracies are true and I have no doubts about many of them. However, I'm leaning on this incident truly being an accident.
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