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Knowing the ship's momentum too enormous to reverse, why did they not hold steady course? When power was restored, why did they not power up on a safe heading - knowing reverse could not save the day? No headway, no steerage. But, what do I know? Holiday Express was full last night..... You should have started with "but what do I know" and quit. You should just STFU
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Knowing the ship's momentum too enormous to reverse, why did they not hold steady course? When power was restored, why did they not power up on a safe heading - knowing reverse could not save the day? No headway, no steerage. But, what do I know? Holiday Express was full last night..... You should have started with "but what do I know" and quit. He actually had some valid questions. The more I watch the video and think about it, the more curious I get. Those pilots make 700k a year btw. 700K a year? Why would you even TRY to pass on such BS that can be checked so easily? https://www.salary.com/research/salary/posting/harbor-pilot-salary/baltimore-md
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Oooooh Refer Boy is "ascared."Paranoia of the truth. Go back to puffing Colorado.
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Probably the only man who can really tell the story has not been publicly heard from yet....that would be the chief engineer, and maybe his first officer.
I cannot imagine the pressure he must be under...liability claims, insurance underwriters, NTSB, Maersk, USCG, owners, battalions of lawyers...Jeffery Epstein had it easy.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Probably the only man who can really tell the story has not been publicly heard from yet....that would be the chief engineer, and maybe his first officer.
I cannot imagine the pressure he must be under...liability claims, insurance underwriters, NTSB, Maersk, USCG, owners, battalions of lawyers...Jeffery Epstein had it easy. The NTSB has interviewed the ship’s captain, his mate, the chief engineer, and one other engineer, according to NTSB Chair, Jennifer Homendy. The two pilots are to be interviewed today.
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Lloyd's carries several Billion Dollar policies with the Singapore Registered Carrier. (Reported)
Why was Joey out there saying the American Taxpayers will foot the bill?
Dementia? Stupidity? Freudian slip?
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Not good with geography and road systems.. And didn't she say Baltimore river...?
For those without thumbs, it's s Garden fookin Island, not Hawaii
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Lloyd's carries several Billion Dollar policies with the Singapore Registered Carrier. (Reported)
Why was Joey out there saying the American Taxpayers will foot the bill?
Dementia? Stupidity? Freudian slip? Not a fan of Biden, but I think it's important to get the bridge back up ASAP. If the U.S. pays for it, to make it happen more quickly, they can recover the funds from Lloyd's when that process is complete.
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Lloyd's carries several Billion Dollar policies with the Singapore Registered Carrier. (Reported)
Why was Joey out there saying the American Taxpayers will foot the bill?
Dementia? Stupidity? Freudian slip? Because by the time Lloyd's pays - everyone on this forum will be dead and buried. US gov gets it rolling/pays now because this is a fairly important port. When the insurance checks come in finally - they're turned over to the government. It's in the nation's interest to expedite the clearing and rebuild. Waiting on a lengthy insurance process of assigning blame isn't recommended. The Lloyd's insurance covers the boat and what it hit. Shared insurance covers the cargo. The insurance companies for all the BCO's and the ship owner will argue over what % of clean up was due to cargo, what % was due to ship. Then they're all going to discuss if the owner or the operator of the boat is at fault or does the charter company (Maersk) bear responsibility. Do the Baltimore Port Pilots? - all of those competing insurance companies will argue about this for the next 10 years+ Baltimore needs the port open now. Honestly - they should be asking the SeaBees for help as clearing this is WELL within their wheelhouse of skills.
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Baltimore needs the port open now.
Honestly - they should be asking the SeaBees for help as clearing this is WELL within their wheelhouse of skills. Exactly, get the harbor opened back up, asap. Had this have happened in China the lanes would most likely be open by Monday[at the latest].
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Baltimore needs the port open now.
Honestly - they should be asking the SeaBees for help as clearing this is WELL within their wheelhouse of skills. Exactly, get the harbor opened back up, asap. Had this have happened in China the lanes would most likely be open by Monday[at the latest]. I assume tho - we're operating a little slower to recover bodies. China wouldn't, they'd dynamite the thing and go. I get that. But you ARE talking about tons of metal, debris in what, 45 feet of water and a monster current. Plus it's not like that debris and metal is there like legos and will come apart easily. It's a pile of work for sure.
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Reports I heard this AM was that the powers have moved to 'removal' today[bridge, not bodies].
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5 OSHA monitors for each man working....
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Lloyd's carries several Billion Dollar policies with the Singapore Registered Carrier. (Reported)
Why was Joey out there saying the American Taxpayers will foot the bill?
Dementia? Stupidity? Freudian slip? LOL! Because it is True! The Money Changers want that loan.
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You must be a Coast Guard guy...
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Oooooh Refer Boy is "ascared."Paranoia of the truth. Go back to puffing Colorado. LOL scared of what, dipshìt? A numbnuts like you who can't even spell? A dipshìt who thinks the insurer is already writing a check for an amount that's currently unknown?
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I don't know beans about the Seabees...but I know something about marine construction...I would opt for the biggest marine construction contractor in the Chesapeake, with the most heavy lift capability...and offer them a time contingent bonus contract and get out of the f...king way. Done.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I suspect a tech guy that knows the software for the ships control system could extract the events as they happened in an hour or less. Most industrial and safety systems run a historian. Government might not think to approach it from that angle though.
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Either an..
1. Act of terrorism
2. Accident
3. Act of war
Prove one, show evidence.. not might have been, could have been circumstantial BS.
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Is it true the ship was loaded with toxic waste. They said something about that on the news last night. My 10 year old daughter was watching with me and said if that boat was full of toxic waste it was probably crashed by some bad guys on purpose.
Probably just an accident but I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear it was deliberate sabotage. Imaging the damage a bunch of bad actors could do to our infrastructure if we were stupid enough to let a bunch of unvetted people in. But, no one in the world wants to destroy our country as much as the democrats do.
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