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I have BS on ignore, only see his drivel when someone quotes him.

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That beats a 0.277 Badlands, 0.710 BC at 3000fps how?

I know dang well it does not beat what I listed, that is why I posted it.

I can go fishing too. smirk

How do you know I wasn't as well?

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NOTHING is fhuqking funnier than a Professional Victim Dumbfhuqk Tournament,as Crying Kchuntss duel to assert the "validity" of their contrived Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Hint.

You gals are a "rugged" lot. Hint.

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Yeah, He is an easy catch.


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More interesting data on the 6.8 Western vs 7mm PRC. With 6.8 Western brass being picked up by ADG I suspect it may come out the winner in the long run.

Pardon his theatrics and conspiracies. Take note of the data though. It tells a valid tale.


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Ladies,

You can fiddle fhuqk and DREAM aloud all you wish,but the Seven Prick will simply scoot a .796 BC 180 at 2850fps+. Hint.

Just sayin'.....................


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Originally Posted by Woodsman1991
More interesting data on the 6.8 Western vs 7mm PRC. With 6.8 Western brass being picked up by ADG I suspect it may come out the winner in the long run.

Pardon his theatrics and conspiracies. Take note of the data though. It tells a valid tale.


Winchester .270/150 gr./2850 fps... Laughing at the new kids.


Also, use the Speer bullet BC's for the Nosler bullets in the same weight.




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The BF video is a hoot. I hope it was put out as a gag on 04/01. There's so much to unravel in what he's trying to pass off as novel findings or "ideas". Lot of conflated equivalence.


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I think, it's hard to go wrong with a 270 Winchester. There are other rifles with more power and the ability to kick more, not sure if it kills an animal any more dead.

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I'm looking to build a 270W on a Win 70 receiver, the difference on this one is that it will be the first I've done with a Proof carbon barrel. The only Proof blank I see available in 22" (will be using a suppressor) is 7.5 twist which I'm afraid may be too fast for the 140-150s I intend to use. Can anyone offer any insight on this option?

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Originally Posted by 257Bob
I'm looking to build a 270W on a Win 70 receiver, the difference on this one is that it will be the first I've done with a Proof carbon barrel. The only Proof blank I see available in 22" (will be using a suppressor) is 7.5 twist which I'm afraid may be too fast for the 140-150s I intend to use. Can anyone offer any insight on this option?

I like the .270Win from a component availability perspective as well as the reliably smooth feeding that long sexy tapered case gives. I have a 22" 1:8 Lilja in 270Win on a Kimber 84L Montana. I've really only used 2 projectiles for accuracy/hunting (I'll use any old thing lying around for Fire-forming new brass). The 2 I've used are the 150ABLR @ 3K fps and 140gn Badlands SuperBullDozer @ 3075fps. Accuracy is excellent with both. The 140 Badlands gives me a bit more BC, an extra 75FPS, and less recoil (the 150's are snappy in a 7.25# all up package).

There's not a big-game .277 projectile made that would give me pause in a 1:7.5 twist. Perhaps some of the lightweight varmint bullets might go "poof" before they hit the target, but, anything actually made as a projectile meant for deer and larger should be just fine in a 270Win.

Using the M70 action I would:

1. Obtain a "magnum" length magazine or have someone remove the spacer to lengthen the box magazine COAL capacity from 3.34" to ~3.6"
2. Replace or shorten the bolt stop and ejector accordingly.

Using the Kimber, I'm locked in @ 3.34" COAL and those 140 Badlands are seated a LONG way into the case and are a country mile off the lands. As it turns out, it shoots them just fine, but, I certainly didn't stack the odds in my favor from the get-go.

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Originally Posted by Woodsman1991
More interesting data on the 6.8 Western vs 7mm PRC. With 6.8 Western brass being picked up by ADG I suspect it may come out the winner in the long run.

Pardon his theatrics and conspiracies. Take note of the data though. It tells a valid tale.


Not trying to ruffle feathers here but I think the 6.8 Western is DOA, just too many options these days for the 6.8W to develop a loyal following to keep ammo and rifle manufacturers stocking such items. For those who MUST have a short action magnum, the 6.5 PRC fits the bill pretty well.

To suggest that the 6.8 W outperforms the 7PRC, well maybe, but who cares, if were chasing velocity only there are others that leave them both in the dust. The 7 PRC in my humble opinion is the "easy button" for a high-bc bullet/cartridge combo that is ideally suited for long range hunting for those who are into that kind of thing. As much as I like my 7mm RM, the 7PRC makes both the 7RM and 300WM superfluous.

As I get older, I like to simplify my life, I don't care for heavy recoil and I like ammo that is affordable and available.

Now, time to build a 270W!

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Originally Posted by Woodsman1991
More interesting data on the 6.8 Western vs 7mm PRC. With 6.8 Western brass being picked up by ADG I suspect it may come out the winner in the long run.

Pardon his theatrics and conspiracies. Take note of the data though. It tells a valid tale.


IMO the reason for this is understanding the history of the PRC cartridges. George Gardner took the 7mm rem SAUM and made a 6.5 with it, His thinking was run a bigger case but at lower pressure for barrel life. Some people thought it was a success. It didn't make sense to copy the 6.5 saum that GAP was promoting so they worked together and developed the 6.5 PRC. The Truth is the 6.5 PRC runs about like a hot loaded 6.5-284. I think the same line of thinking applies to the 7mm PRC. either way you autta be rolling your own with the 7mm prc and you can load it up how you want. I like the PRC cases because you can get a bit more without the stupid belt on the case.

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I like the 6.5 PRC but I already have a 270 Win and there's very little difference and I'm not hung up on short actions. I am quite found of this 7 PRC though!

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bullet selection mutes 6.8 or 270 anything. my first centerfire was a 270, my dad only ever had a 270, my 270 is a 280 AI now and I have a 6.5-284. not getting anything 6.8 anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
bullet selection mutes 6.8 or 270 anything. my first centerfire was a 270, my dad only ever had a 270, my 270 is a 280 AI now and I have a 6.5-284. not getting anything 6.8 anytime soon.

Certainly makes it more difficult. There is a lot of potential but a dearth of hunters looking for 277 bullets means nobody is going to put serious effort into them sadly. 7MM projectiles have a huge advantage on that front and will most likely continue that way.

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Originally Posted by 257Bob
I'm looking to build a 270W on a Win 70 receiver, the difference on this one is that it will be the first I've done with a Proof carbon barrel. The only Proof blank I see available in 22" (will be using a suppressor) is 7.5 twist which I'm afraid may be too fast for the 140-150s I intend to use. Can anyone offer any insight on this option?

I don’t think you’ll have a problem with RPMs myself using hunting bullets. The Swedes been using 7.5-8 twist for years without an issue. I kinda think you’ll like what you see with lighter bullets turned up in RPMs myself.


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the other resistance to 270 ever going anywhere is, look at the barrel twist in those millions of old rifles. Its really only the newer guns and that is IF they speed up the twist that new bullets could even be taken advantage of. a 270 that shoots 200 fps faster than a 270 win, doesn't sound like its really going to be a beneficial amounts when its not like your going to be using a 270 as a 6-800 yard gun.

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But could a person use a fast 270 if twisted right? The 7mm was 1-9.5 to 1-9 and now 1-8 in 7 PRC but at the velocity of the old 7 RM.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
the other resistance to 270 ever going anywhere is, look at the barrel twist in those millions of old rifles. Its really only the newer guns and that is IF they speed up the twist that new bullets could even be taken advantage of. a 270 that shoots 200 fps faster than a 270 win, doesn't sound like its really going to be a beneficial amounts when its not like your going to be using a 270 as a 6-800 yard gun.

I have shot a 1:10 twist 270 with the 145gr ELD-X quite a bit out to 800 yards. Nothing wrong with that combo at all. I can not imagine a 1:8 twist with higher BC bullets being worse.

I have not shot any of the standard 130gr bullets out of my 1:8 twist 270WCF, but it would not cause me any concern. A lighter constructed bullet could be even more explosive on game. But a mono metal might actually benefit from the faster RPM.

Industry support is not as vibrant with the 270, but it is there, and getting better.


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