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And you don’t have to wait 10 years for a shortage anymore. The next shortage starts before the last one has ended now.

I have been handloading for well over 40 years and have enough components on hand to shoot for the rest of my life. The things I don't handload, 22LR, 12 Ga, 410 etc... I have several thousand rounds stocked up. If you did not see this sort of thing happening you are either blind or stupid.

If you haven't stocked up before now then you have nobody to blame but yourself. I began laying in large amounts of loading components (in addition to what I already had) when Joey took office.

Same. Started stocking up on things in my 20s. Find good buys from old timers and bought up what they had.

Me also. I cannot shoot up all the components I have on hand. When ammo was unobtainable I would load 20 at a time for friends if they used .277 or .308 and I had the dies. Always loaded fairly mild middle of the road powder charges for others. There was a time when .30-06, .270W, and .308W could only be bought online from scalpers.

We won't go without ammo here.

Exactly.

Or didn’t have enough disposable income to invest the thousands of dollars on it. Some of us were pretty played out financially raising a family.

Virtue signaling about owning all that is like posting a pics of a garage full of expensive hot rods in response to a guy looking for an affordable car for his kid.

No foreign company should own any damn thing in this country. Whether it be eurotrash, yellow Chinese, or anyone.

Yes, there should be no foreign ownership, but that ship has sailed a LONG time ago.

And it's what investment owned / controlled companies do, all in the name of increasing stockholder value.

Lots of phony synergies & paper efficiency gains, almost none of which are ever really realized.

In the meantime, the stock value goes up, short term, & the big, institutional stockholders sell at a nice profit.

And the cycle will repeat, likely with some of the groups being sold off.

MM

While I agree with the nationalist sentiment, Wall Street will sell this country out for the smallest percentage increase to their portfolio. Those woke Silicon Valley firms are all owned by Americans, but that doesn't stop them from hurting this country to improve their bottom line. Character matters. Education matters. People who have nothing but contempt for their own country and its institutions are dangerous. People who have lived sheltered lives, never learned common sense, but who are highly specialized in one area and given immense power, are also dangerous.

This ^^^^^^


Even with today's record reloading prices, a pound of powder still only costs the same as taking the wife out to dinner in a sit down restaurant. A sleeve of primers costs about the same as a McMeal. I did not get my stash by burning thousands of dollars at a time. $10 this week. $30 a couple weeks from now. It's all about priorities.

Got a Lee starter kit for Christmas from the inlaws when first married in '97. I never even put it together until I bought a buddy out for $200 a couple years later.

Press, dies, electronic and beam scales, etc. Some powder and bullets.

A pound of powder here. A box of bullets there. Bought some brass and had 1x fired brass from factory loads.

Bought primers or powder from an old gun nut who would buy guns, scopes or anything else shooting related at auctions then hit me up with loading stuff he had for sale that were included in some of his purchases.

In all reality I bet I have spent less than $1k on loading tools. Far more on components nut those are generally bought a few at a time unless a new cartridge and needing brass, bullets and dies, etc.

It can be done just takes time. If getting started now I would.put the cart ahead of the horse and get components first. Tools have been easy to get.

Nonsense.


How many tens of thousands of rounds of 577 Snyder do you have on hand?

Personally, I’m pretty well set up. I’m well stocked, though could always use more . If I stopped buying components and only kept what I have now I’d be fine for along time. I started out almost 20 years ago doing the same thing. I have a press my uncle gave me that was made by my great uncle, bought here and there etc. But imagine being a single income dude in his 20’s with a family looking to get into it now. It’d take a lot more to get started. That’s all I’m saying.

Vista, making about 3/5 - 3/4 of all the primers & RF ammo made in the US.

Some say; CSG wouldn't pay that kind of money just to shut it down, or move it halfway around the world.

Maybe not, but if things got really hot in Europe CSG could certainly divert completed product to where ever they see fit(bring the highest price). And that wouldn't bloody likely be the American hunter or sport shooter.

Trust me I didn't toss "thousands" of dollars into it. Just a few bucks each and every paycheck while still taking care of my family. Primers here, bullets there, powder over that a way, brass whenever you find it. It's called planning ahead and investing in things that will come in handy. Hell I still pick up items whenever I find them like a couple of pounds of Varget Powder I found on the shelf. I have quite a bit of it already but you must take advantage of every opportunity.

I remembered what happened when OBozo took over and saw the writing on the wall with Joey. If you didn't then you weren't paying attention.

I don't have a rifle chambered for that round. So why would I give a damn about having any ammo for it? Asking such a question is beyond stupid. Now if you want to talk about 308 Win, 7mm Rem Mag, 6.5x55 Swedish, 9.3x62 Mauser and 375 H&H Mag I can put my hands on at least 1000 rounds for each right now and have the components to load at least 1000 rounds of each.

I started stocking up in August 2008 before the installation of the new leader in November. Then I consolidated everything to calibers that are common to a widespread area in my neck of the woods. I will continue to buy things to be self sufficient and not dependent on any retailer for my ammo.

I certainly agree with that sentiment at least as far as critical "infrastructure" related industries goes..............and that include ammunition and component manufacturing.

As for other things, yeah, it would be great to make a concerted effort for the US to be completely self reliant again, but unfortunately that's not a possibility in today's world . Having so many mfgd goods coming from an avowed enemy such as China just does not strike me as being very intelligent.

These giant corporations aren't really "people".... not like some particular individual you can call an "American" or a "foreigner". They are business entities that can be based in any country they like at any time. Simply open an office in the US, and bam, they're an "American" company.