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Is there a rifle action in 7-08 that is longer than the standard so a person can load bullets out farther? The standard as I understand is 2.800". My idea is to convert it to .284 Win but be able to load higher BC bullets.

Have you heard of Tikka?

Nula, Forbes 20B, Barrett FC.

Plenty of customs using Wyatts.

Some action makers have something between SA and LA.

Maybe intermediate length?

My 7-08 is a barrel I put on a 110 (long) action that used to be a 270.

Why couldn’t use knock the spacer out of a M70 and gain some OAL. May need to trim a bolt stop and ejector but it’ll gain you some good space.

There's quite a few cartridges that are a whole lot more comfortable if they aren't stuffed into a short action. 7mm-08 teeters on that depending what bullet is being used.

The 257 Roberts, 284 Winchester, 6mm Remington are just a few that fit about perfect in a intermediate length. Any 98 Mauser action whether military configuration or commercial works dandy for those cartridges. The Roberts is like it's at its natural home in a 98 action, as would be the 284 Winchester.

Just get a Tikka and be done with it. For my 7-08, I just had to get the M+ magazine Tilkka uses for the Creedmoor to seat further out. I didn’t have to mess with the bolt stop at all like on my .300 WSM.

Thanks all. Know of all the brands mentioned and thought of getting a Winchester and converting it. Hoping for something shorter than a standard action but longer than the short action set up for .308 type cartridges. Montana Rifle Company had one that would handle 3" I believe. My current .284 is a Mod 88 Winchester and requires loads that accommodate bullets that are good at 2.800" as you know. It was mentioned how the .257 Roberts does better in a longer action too. That is the one criticism I have with my Kimber in that caliber. It will only accommodate 2.800".

What OAL can the Tikka handle?

I wrote Barrett when they were still making the FC asking for a .284 Win in it. Turns out I wasn't the only one, but we know how that turned out.

Zermatt makes what they call a "medium" action. It accept AICS pattern magazines and medium length BDL kits for a max COAL of 3.250. Can do a pre-fit shouldered barrel or Remage style too.

And Defiance makes the XM.

The Tikka M+ mag can handle ~2.980".

In this Day,the 284 Win is an EASY pass(I've had quite a few). Hint.

I'll take a Montucky 84L over a S/A Winny 70,wearing a spacer knock,because I shoot multiples of each. VASTLY superior stock to boot,lighter,better handling and more COAL. Hint.

In 84L a 8" Seven Mouser is the easy button and I shoot that too. Hint.

A 700 L/A in 280 connects all dots and I love 190 Beer Cans there,in multiple Custom 8's. Hint.

Forget ALL things 284 Win. Hint.

A Teeker wouldn't ever be a serious thought by me,because I suffer them too. Hint.

Just sayin'...............

That's the thing too - if I'm going to be building a rifle for a "long 7-08 to shoot heavy/slippery bullets" - may as well just go 280 in a good sized mag box and be done.

If I didn't have a lot of .284 brass I might agree with you.

Tikka

Everyone's idea of "a lot" is different and what I plainly cited,isn't subjective. Hint.

I shoot multiple 6-284's,25-284's and 284's,though those ships have simply sailed and will never return to port. Hint.

Just sayin'............

Sell the .284 brass.

No. Have another .284

To remind people of the original question. Is there a rifle action in 7-08 that is longer than the standard so a person can load bullets out farther? The standard as I understand is 2.800". My idea is to convert it to .284 Win but be able to load higher BC bullets.

WSM box in a short-action M70 will give you 3". You might have to tweak the lips a bit.

Your "idea" isn't worth a fhuqk. Hint.

I ordered (500) .838 BC 190 Beer Cans last night. Namely for 7-08's,7-08AI,Mouser,280 and 7mm RemMag. Obviously in parcels suited to same,as my cup runneth over. Hint.



You'd do well to erase your Pipe Dream(s) and simply revisit reality,as you haven't a FIRST fhuqking clue. Hint.

Just sayin'............

Zermatt and Defiance were given as options for such a thing. Their medium actions. Question has been answered.

There are many like me. Forgive me if I don't bow at your feet. Hint

I was thinking standard factory options, but I guess I should have said that. Still, I appreciated the advice.

Tikka you can convert to LA with a Mag and bolt stop.

Your very WELL founded Insecurities and Professional Victim Hurt Feeler Reports,go without sayin'. Just sayin'. Hint.

I find it fascinatingly HILARIOUS,just how incredibly fhuqking deep your Stupidity is. Dots have been connected via Silver Platter and yet your Delusions persist. Hint.

Bless your heart,for doing the best you can,with what INCREDIBLY little you "have" to "work" with. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

2.800" is the standard if it is a Rem or Rem clone. Others are all over the place. Win. 3.00 etc. Tikka is often recommended as you can change the mag and bolt stop. But then you have a long action and could have started with a Remington LA and enjoyed the ton of aftermarket support. Mostly after one decides on case capacity and what bullet you want to shoot, choice gets determined by brass you have available, and often what is trendy. Short actions are in medium actions are needed for the new longer bullets with some cartridges. Short barrels so we can run suppressers. Logic has no place if you want to build a new rifle. Build what you want. P.S. we are getting close to replicating the length of the Mauser 93 mag box.

The 284 Win has long been known to be on the wrong platform (Short Action). In todays world with bullet BC in the .700-.800 range the 284 Win is no different than the 6.5-284 Norma, which carries a 3.2+” COAL. You’d be better off keeping the 7-08 Rem and buying and changing the mag box to a 3 incher.

Going Teeker "gets" you nothing,because few things suck as much ass,as Teeker mags. Hint.

The "difference" between 7-08 and 284 Win is just a couple "clicks" on a 1000yd erector,assuming both are done correctly. Hint.

Pass the 7-08,180's,Alpha brass and hold The Fluff. Hint................

A 7x57 in a M98 action might work.

Get a Tikka. That would piss off the one note folk.

Knew a guy who built a 7MM-08 on an Interarms Mark X action. If I remember correctly it had a spacer in the magazine, dang that rifle shot good.

I'd 84L wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy before suffering a fhuqking Mouser 98. Hint.

Teeker's bane,is their Dog Schit magazines,in all things excepting CTR. Their 1-8" 223's getting the greatest nudge,by going CTR,though I only have (4) 223's so configured and (1) sipping from AICS. Hint.





Exceed CTR COAL and you are left with a Goat Fhuqk. Hint.

The Mark X is obviously a Mouser and an easy pass. The S/S CRF 70 S/A's wearing a Whizzum box(no spacer) and ejector/bolt stop isn't horrid. Hint.





The 284 Win is an EASY pass,from any/all angles and pardon my simply shooting it all and then some. Hint.

just sayin'..............

What a silly idea.





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Big [bleep], is that necessary with the thermal imager? 😅

Exactly^^

Poor poor(literally) Beezer,has never even SEEN a 284 Win. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

I have built 284's on short Model 70's, with the spacer removed (not bad), Sako 579 with a homemade box (worked but not great), Turkish Mauser (good length, fed great), and a pre-64 Model 70. I also had a factory SA Ruger 284. If that rifle had been a 7-08, it would have been a great rifle but this pre-dated the 7mm-08 by several years. I built a few single shot target rifles (40x, Savage 112V, Musgrave) and the cartridge worked fairly well in that venue (this was back when the 162 Hornady was the high BC bullet) but had limitations.
The OP is looking for a longer 7-08 so he can turn it into a 284. I would go with the Model 70 just because I like them better than Tikkas. I don't really like the concept though, because I don't really like the cartridge. GD

Get a 280

Just for perspective and utilizing the 284 Win to its full performance capabilities, F-Class shooters load 180 gr and 190 gr bullets with BC at .725 to .840 with COAL at 3.235” to 3.275”. Trying to squeeze top end from a 3.0” action will still prohibit many projectiles and never achieve overall top performance.

Today most would conclude/concede that the 284 Win somewhat resides in no man’s land. Those who load it to SAAMI specs have a respectable game getter somewhere between a 7-08 Rem and a 280 Rem, but far short of its capabilities when housed in a std .473” long action bolt at 3.235” COAL. Same set up as a 6.5-284 Norma.

Tikka actions are one size: "long", They utilize different bolt stops and magazines to match the cartridge's length to the action.

So, you can buy a Tikka in a "short" cartridge ( ie 7mm--08), and either grind back the bolt stop ledge to allow the cartridge to be extracted further rearward (out to "long case", ie 30-06 size), then use Tikka long action magazines for longer seating options..

Or, buy a Tikka long action bolt stop, and use long action mags (270 Win/30-06).

Here is one source, but Brownell's and other places have Tikka long and short bolt stops.
https://www.mountaintactical.com/categories/tikka-t3t3x-action-parts

If you do get a Tikka, you may want to upgrade the factory recoil lug with a high-strength recoil lug. Easy-peasy DIY replacement. I did it on my Tikka T3 308 Win Varmint.
https://www.mountaintactical.com/categories/recoil-lugs

How would the .284 feed from the Tikka's magazine? Would it have to be modified?

CTR mags are steel and the 'lips shape easily. Hint.

OEM "M" and "M+" mags are Milk Jugs and do not. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................

Feeds perfect from standard long action plastic mags. Just ask those that have actually done it.

If ya fancy a Rem SA but want mag length a Wyatts extended box is a 2.980" with minimal fitting.

I've never been a fan of the 284 case. I don't like the related rim and it's too long to work well in a short action with high bc bullets.

I have a 3" mag box on my 7-08 fieldcraft and it's great feeding and has enough mag box for me to run 180 eldms at 2550 fps with 1/2 moa accuracy from its 18.5" barrel. They just fit and feed well. Not too fat to get 5 rounds in and you never miss hitting the rim to pick up another round.

As much as I like it I'm still looking at the Creedmoor case thinking it could do the same thing better.

For a short action it's 7-08, for a standard long action like ruger or mauser it's 7x57, and for a rem 3.6" length long action its 280 rem for me. All with 7 twist barrels please. Although I'm currently using 280 AI when I build again I'm going to go plain 280. I had a 700 KS stainless in 280 and it was as close to perfect for me as I've had. I should have kept it and rebarreled it in a dup contour 8 twist at 22".

For 7 mags my favorite is still the 7 wsm but I'm really liking my 7 prc and have high hopes for my latest element in 28 nosler. It'll break 3000 fps with 180s from its 22" tube with moderate loads that cycle easy and are easy on brass. I've typically been one to always run things just a hair under max but brass life is good on moderate loads. I still run enough pressure for a clean consistent load.

Bb

No way!

That's what I am hoping for. You have done it then with good success?

I have thought of the 7 PRC too, but then read of all the problems getting the advertised velocity (at least in factory loads.) The 6.8 Western doesn't seem to have the same problem and thought of that one also. But I have several calibers and am hoping to keep from getting a new one if possible.

My hunting group all have Tikkas in 7mm-08. We swapped SA bolts stops for LA bolt stops and we use 30-06 mags. Easy.




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Teeker mags suck heavy ass,unless they are CTR. Hint.

The 284 Win is a Goat Fhuqk,whether M+ or Twat-Six mags,with CTR's being to short to do any good. Hint.

Pardon my being afforded the luxuries,of not being forced to guess. Hint.

Just sayin'.............

Another poster some time back had a pre 64 Win Mod 70 made into a .284 with just a barrel change as I recall. Maybe some more work to the action. Said it worked fine.

Internal mags made of actual METAL,are very different from Teeker plastic bullschit. Hint.

I shoot multiple 6-284's,25-284's and 284's upon same. Hint.

Just sayin'................

I thought you said the .284 was crap?

Just A Kchunt,

Who might you be Whining to now? Tough to keep up with all of your Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.

Just sayin'...........

Just reading your posts. Do you intend to retract?

Just A Kchunt,

Were I able to retract your copious Hurt Feeler Reports,I certainly would not,because your CLUELESS Crying Kchuntitude is simply fhuqking HILARIOUS. Hint.

Just sayin'...........

The sociopath made it to the toilet. It was a big day. Hint

What were the "odds" of THE Resident Brokedick CLUELESS Crying Kchunt,also just Happening" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit? Hint.



Didn't see it coming,but happened to be a ZULUS Day. Turning Weaver slot into 1913,snuggin' Helicoils,the usual,yada,yada,yada. Hint.







Then of course brave the weather and air things out. Hint.



What did you "do" today,besides feverishly read my EVERY word and gawk EVERY Splendid Pixel,from your Couchbound Kchunt on the sidelines of "Life"? That while vindicating your Professional Victim Status. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............

So, the .284 Win is a good cartridge worthy of a rebarrel or rechamber. Got it. Thanks.

You've "got" Imagination and Pretend,because it's all you can afford. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!............

I did that as well.

Teeker RPM,fhuqks the 7-08 right proper and due same,the Kreed' is a superior Mouse Trap in said platform(as well as most others). Hint.

Bullets always matter more than headstamps ladies. Hint.

Just sayin'............

Yep, if I had your money I'd burn mine.

Just A Kchunt,

Fortunately for you,Imagination,Pretend,Dreams and Hurt Feeler Reports are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Keep rattling pom-pom's from the sidelines of "Life",despite that being your ONLY "option". Hint.

Just sayin'............

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