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I finally stopped chasing velocity.

I hunted many years with my 7 Wby & 300 WSM.

Finally put them away & hunt with my 308’s now. Haven’t felt any loss of gain.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
I finally stopped chasing velocity.

I hunted many years with my 7 Wby & 300 WSM.

Finally put them away & hunt with my 308’s now. Haven’t felt any loss of gain.

I hunt a lot with Savage 99's in 284 shooting 145 grain Speer btsp and 358 shooting 180 grain Barnes TTSX. I believe the 358 is the better hammer but I could argue the opposite just as well.

I certainly don't feel the need for "more" on most occasions but if I dial the RPM in like I want I'll have both hammers in one rifle.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
I certainly don't feel the need for "more" on most occasions but if I dial the RPM in like I want I'll have both hammers in one rifle.

I do not blame you. Load up and give it the beans.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Did some shooting of the 338 RPM today. This is the 18" barrel with the brake installed. Scoped with a Primary Arms GLx 2.5-10. Trigger is light, no creep, breaks clean. Chevron center aiming point in scope is very good for fine work on 10x. Does not obscure the bullseye, it's below it. Brake does an excellent job managing recoil. None of the loads I tried are what I would consider harsh with the brake installed. Very nice to shoot with hearing protection, Walkers. Had a few positives for load development and quite a few not good groups. Did not set up the chronograph. Some of the light loads shooting 160 Barnes ttsx shot well enough and are either overlapping the 200 Accubond loads or close to it. I did not hit nervana but it's what I would consider reasonable progress. Here's a few targets.


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What were you getting for velocity out of those 160 TTSX loads?

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Originally Posted by RinB
I have decided to abandon the acquisition of another 338 bore cartridge. I have had many between 338-06 thru 340 Wby. I have never observed on game performance that is better than my 270. Obviously the 338’s work but they either are harder kicking or have rounder trajectories.
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After the same sort of experience from the .338-06 to .340 Weatherby (though most with the .338 Winchester) I would have suggest no noticeable difference between 'em and .30-caliber cartridges from the .30-06 to several .300 magnums--but after reviewing my hunting notes am in agreement with the .270 Winchester. Or maybe even the 6.5 PRC, which I've been using for several years now, and is essentially a short, fat .270....


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I had my Mark V ULWT 338/06 reamed to the Ackley. When the smith turned the barrel back one turn to clean up the chamber, it also shortened my Rifling Lead. I wasn't quite able to safely get the same speeds as I did when it was a long throated A-Square, ha. The more I looked at the 338 RPM, the more I wanted one! ha But the barrel shank on the Mark V was "iffy" to turn back the .301" it would take for the RPM Reamer (comes with the Weatherby freebore pilot) to clean up the neck of the Ackley. For some reason the RPM's is a tad narrower than the Ackley's. Hmmmm. I was going to settle for my Ackley version when I found a Weatherby 338/06 a-Square barrel on Ebay. $90! Well hey then, we unscrew the Ackley (and hang onto it) then ream the new 338/06 chamber with the RPM Reamer and put the Mark V's radial brake from the other barrel on it...Presto! I have a light, handy, thumper that takes factory ammo ( a small plus) and can be handloaded warm or mild depending upon how I feel, or my shoulder feels, or my neck, hey I'm all bolted together anyhow, I hurt "anyhow" I may as well enjoy my life and rifle Loonyism!, lol. I will report back in a few weeks about the results. Hot dog, getting jazzed again! smile

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Mine's sitting on the back burner for the moment.


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I gotta tell you, I received that 338/06 barrel off of Ebay and it was perfectly new! That's a good deal. I have no idea what other if any actions they may fit, but for $90-100 you can't beat it!

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Elmer Keith was spot-on about the versatility of the .33 caliber cartridges for all of Alaska. To this day, I don't think a hunter could do any better.

Here are a few examples:

Scores of high BC 225 grain grain premium bullets to choose from. Whereas the 30 calibers have limited options in the 220 grain territory and are generally potato-shaped. They also don't expand very wide, not like the .338 225 grain offerings.

I stay at 200 grain bullets in my 30 caliber rifles, and more specifically, the oryx.

So where the 30 caliber cartridges end, the .338's are just getting warmed up.

Then on the other end of the spectrum, the .338 275 grain swift A-frame is a deep penetrating, wide expanding .338 bullet that hangs right along side the 300 grain Swifts and 325 grain oryx bullets in my 9.3x62.

My .338, the scope is sighted to 225 grain interbonds or 225 grain fusions. Both match up well to a ballistic reticle to 500 yds. Then the open sights are always sighted to a 275 grain a-frame handload. In a light rifle, they are at the limit of manageable recoil where a shooter can have a meaningful shooting session at extended range.

In treeless winter caribou hunting where the bag limits offer multiple caribou for rural Alaskan residents, the .338's with high bc 225 grain bullets, is an ideal choice. We're talking constant 20-30 mph gusts, and ranges of 300-400 yds are common. Though I've used my 9.3x62 in these conditions, I would've much preferred the 338-06.

The lone 250 grain 9.3 accubond never worked out: 4.5" groups from 2 of my 9.3x62 Mauser rifles. Greg(north61) got bad groups with the 250 accubond as well. Then, they're never in stock, probably discontinued.

Anyhow, here is a 225 grain fusion next to a 30 caliber 220 grain partition. It penetrated within 1/4" of the partition in spruce boards. Had massive expansion, and superb weight retention. With groups always well under an inch, a true sleeper of a bullet @ $18 a box of 50:
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The 250gr Nosler AccuBond is far and away the MOST accurate of any 9.3 handloaded projectile fired in my Tikka T3 Lite at 0.44" for three at 100 yds. And it was repeatable. It also terminated a nice black bear at 85 yds from a single shot leaving the muzzle at ~2700 fps.

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Looking at a 338 RPM cartridge, it reminds me of a 9.3x62 necked down to 338, ha ala the 338 Scovil! Not bad company to be in.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Knight
Looking at a 338 RPM cartridge, it reminds me of a 9.3x62 necked down to 338, ha ala the 338 Scovil! Not bad company to be in.

The 338RPM has almost exactly the same case capacity as the 338WinMag, so it's a good bit more potent than the 338-06 (or your very similar 338x62).


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That sounds great to me! The "only" problem I ever had with any of the 338 Magnum were their size/weight! I did "try" a Ultra Lwt Custom in 340 Wby made by Match Grade Arms. It was too light, its Radial Brake was too loud and it kicked the guts out of 2 good scopes. It was just too much of a good thing. I also found that for my use, the 180-210 weights were perfect, even in the 35 Whelen AI I found the 200X as deep penetrating as the 250X "on Plains Game". Never shot an animal that would have made the 250 needed. My farthest shot on elk out here is right about 250yds "best guess". So I find fast/flat with lots of thump very much to my liking.

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I had an MGA in 35 Whelen once. It was built on a lightened Sako action, and I probably should have kept it. It was a nice rifle. But I'll bet that 340 was a hand-full.

I briefly had a 338RPM built on a LAW action with a #4 Pacnor barrel. It had a WTO switchlug, so other .473 boltface rounds like the 280AI or 25-06 could be added.

I thought it would make a great one-rifle battery, but it was a little on the heavy side plus I decided I really wasn't a one-rifle guy.

I think the RPM rounds really only make sense in the Weatherby 6-lug platform that they were designed for, or in a lightweight 30-06 length action (not 375H&H length) like a Tikka etc.

And a lightweight switchlug rifle with a 6.5RPM and 338RPM barrels would cover a lot of bases in NA. Add a varmint barrel if needed.


PS. Picked up some 180TTSX to try out in my 35 Whelen's. Going to test the fast/flat with thump theory myself.

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I shot that 250yd cow elk with the rebarreled 340 wby ( I went to a heavier barrel, 338WM and Mag-Na-Ported. )Also went with the then 185 XLC, also to reduce recoil. It was "perfection". I ended up giving that rifle to my Pastor down in Texas. Now, most folks see no difference between a 300 Mag/180 and a 338 Mag of some sort. I can't prove it, and as good as the 300 is, I feel the 338's + hit harder. It "might" just be me too, ha. But it makes me feel good down in my Soul when I use a Medium on elk! smile

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Completely pointless cartridge. More garbage from Weatherby

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I have decided to abandon the acquisition of another 338 bore cartridge. I have had many between 338-06 thru 340 Wby. I have never observed on game performance that is better than my 270. Obviously the 338’s work but they either are harder kicking or have rounder trajectories.
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For reals. I have a 270 (which I gave my son) and now a 7mm Rem Mag which handles everything short of my Rem XCR II in 375 Weatherby.


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What bullet do you shoot in your 7 Mag Colorado? Its a very popular round over here. I had a 375 Wby for awhile, shot the 270 TSX.

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