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Not a nickel in it, but today American Reloading has several rifle powders available. Get ‘em while they’re hot!


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Have you ordered anything from them in the past?


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Have you ordered anything from them in the past?
I frequently order bullets. Sometimes primed brass. Never disappointed with product or service. Have never ordered powder, because I have plenty on hand.


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Rifle Powder without load data?
That sounds like a goat rodeo waiting to happen.


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Originally Posted by shaman
Rifle Powder without load data?
That sounds like a goat rodeo waiting to happen.

Not if you know what you are doing.


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Originally Posted by Fotis
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Rifle Powder without load data?
That sounds like a goat rodeo waiting to happen.

Not if you know what you are doing.

A guy has to have at least some idea of the burn rate though.


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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Rifle Powder without load data?
That sounds like a goat rodeo waiting to happen.

Not if you know what you are doing.

A guy has to have at least some idea of the burn rate though.

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Yes, like that.


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As they say, the early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese. I'll wait a bit. Please, by all means, y'all go on ahead.


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Originally Posted by shaman
As they say, the early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese. I'll wait a bit. Please, by all means, y'all go on ahead.
I've got at least 3 different pull down powders from AR and I use them in multiple calibers/rifles. And I've yet to blow myself or anything other than the backstop up. It's pretty simple. Take the $200-$250 you save on your first 8 lb jug and buy a chronograph. Start at 10% under your book value minimum for the like powder on the label and work up. OR, keep buying Hodgdon at $70+ a pound.


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Makes me wonder if these powders are left over lots from an ammo manufactures, and are in fact the the same powder "as similar".

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Originally Posted by bbassi
Start at 10% under your book value minimum for the like powder on the label and work up.

Sure sounds like starting 20% below max. That could have some unintended consequences.

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Start at 10% under your book value minimum for the like powder on the label and work up.

Sure sounds like starting 20% below max. That could have some unintended consequences.

Yes…….


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan
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Start at 10% under your book value minimum for the like powder on the label and work up.

Sure sounds like starting 20% below max. That could have some unintended consequences.
yeah I meant max not min. For example I'm working with the MP625 (Ramshot hunter) and a 3006 shooting 150s. Book has 62.9 max for 3000 fps, so I started at 57 and worked up in half grain increments. I'm at 61.5 getting 2780ish. My goal is 2900 but this powder lot seems slower than the published data for Ramshot Hunter so I'm not sure I'll get there. The same jug used in my 270 and 130 NBT only got me to 2700 at 55 grains but it was shooting sub inch groups with pulled bullets and bulk powder so I stopped there. (book max shows 55.5)The next lot may be completely different but 8 lbs at less than $24/lb delivered goes a hell of a long way for me.


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Originally Posted by bbassi
yeah I meant max not min. For example I'm working with the MP625 (Ramshot hunter) and a 3006 shooting 150s. Book has 62.9 max for 3000 fps, so I started at 57 and worked up in half grain increments. I'm at 61.5 getting 2780ish. My goal is 2900 but this powder lot seems slower than the published data for Ramshot Hunter so I'm not sure I'll get there. The same jug used in my 270 and 130 NBT only got me to 2700 at 55 grains but it was shooting sub inch groups with pulled bullets and bulk powder so I stopped there. (book max shows 55.5)The next lot may be completely different but 8 lbs at less than $24/lb delivered goes a hell of a long way for me.

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Good prices on their powders.I compared their start load data to my loading book data for Winchester 780 and it seems to be close.780 is close to Reloader 22 and I was getting low on powder in that burnrate range.For the price,free shipping and hazmat,what the heck,I bought an 8 pounder.



MP 655 Smokeless Rifle Powder – 8 Lbs
$209.99

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SIMILAR TO:

Winchester Supreme 780

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Ball

SUITABLE FOR:

243 Win, 270 Win, 30-06, 300 PRC, 300 Win Mag, 338 Lapua Mag

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#1617

300 Win Mag Reference Data



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I wouldn't have any problem with the off brand powders. About 25 yrs. ago I bought from Patsreloading. One 8lb was H414, H380. I got them for $64 each with tax and shipping . I bought another that was free shipping and it ws $21 for 8 lbs.. It is H870.. Never used it yet. The H414 & 380 jugs are still just fine..


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I'm going to give the MP 600 a try .thanks for the info.

They show data for the 6.5 creed and I will talk to them about a starting point for 708's with 130 grain bullets.

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I Have had good & poor experiences with American reloading. As long as you get what you ordered, all is fine.

Though when they make an error or what ever you wish to call it, Customer service is close to non existent in my experience. Ordered a 8 lb jug of (similar to IMR 8208) Received the jug & powder did seem essential the same as IMR 8208. Trouble was the jug only weighed 6 lbs & easy had room for another 2 lbs. I attempted to contact them probably 8 times with no luck getting a response. Left me quite sour over that one.

Seen where a number of others on the 65Grendel fourm had similar or same experience with that powder. GRRR


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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Rifle Powder without load data?
That sounds like a goat rodeo waiting to happen.

Not if you know what you are doing.

A guy has to have at least some idea of the burn rate though.
Burn rate is listed It says similar to XXX


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