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Don't forget what else Paul says.
"In Romans 9:6 he says that “not all who are of Israel are Israel.” This indicates the existence of two Israels. One—”all who are of Israel”—indicates the ethnic people, not all of whom believe in Jesus. The other Israel, the context reveals, does not include those who have rejected the Messiah. This new Israel, founded by Messiah, exists in spiritual continuity with the Old Testament saints and so counts as a “spiritual Israel.” It includes Gentiles who believe in the Messiah and so through baptism are spiritually circumcised (Col. 2:11–12) and are reckoned as spiritual Jews (Rom. 2:26–29)."

And Ephesians 2:11–13, 19 “you Gentiles in the flesh . . . were [once] separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel . . . But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near . . . So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints”.

There was already a Temple to Jupiter built on Holy Mountain and there was already an equestrian statue of the Roman emperor placed on the site of the Holy of Holies. And in case your confused, Zeus/Jupiter is literally Satan as Pergamum was said to be the place of Satan’s throne by Paul. Pergamum had the largest and most visited temple to Zeus in the ancient world.

So, the son of god (the Roman emperor) already profaned the Holy Mount with a temple to his father, Jupiter (Satan), and place a statue of himself, the son of god, over the spot of the Holy of Holies in a city rebuilt and renamed as a tribute to Jupiter/Satan.

They've built these Satanic temples in key locations all over the world while you sleep

Look up the new modern but empty Capitol city in Kazakhstan called ASTANA

basically means SATANA in the Slav languages ... or SATAN ...

Masonic/Satanic symbolism in all the structures, do your own research and then tell me this city wasn't built for the Anti-Christ by the corrupted men that serve him

Pretty sure the 24 Hr Campfire resident Masons (blind, useful idiots) ie.. wanna be Satanists will stamp their feet and screech , then try to explain it all away as "coincidence"

There is no biggest fool in the world than the lower ranking Mason, these men are completey devoid of rational thought or knowledge of what they signed up for, It's better for them had they not been born

ASTANA - City of Satan

The Epistle to the Hebrews was written by a Jewish follower of Jesus to a primarily Jewish audience that was experiencing some friction for their faith in Jesus alone. Hebrews was written to encourage its readers to hold firmly to their faith by pointing out the superiority of Jesus alone over everything else that these Jewish believers might be tempted to put their faith in.

Whether they’re being tempted to put their faith in Moses, or the Law of Moses, of the Temple with its priests and sacrifices, etc., it’s all inferior to Jesus. The author is trying to get his readers to recognize and turn away from their desire to maybe compromise their faith in Jesus alone.

He’s arguing for the superiority of Jesus over Moses, the Law of Moses, and the Temple with its priests and sacrifices, etc.. And the reason he’s trying to convince them of the superiority of Jesus over those things, is because those are the very things that his readers are being tempted to drift toward. They’re drifting away from the Gospel of Jesus, and towards the Mosaic religious system they grew up under and were accustomed to.

Their unbelieving Jewish family and friends were giving them a hard time for wanting to follow Jesus alone. The Mosaic religious system wasn’t given because of its intrinsic value in and of itself. It was given to point towards Jesus. All of what was given under the Sinai Covenant was just a shadow of the things to come.

And now that Jesus has come, our focus has to be on Him and His Gospel. He’s greater than everything that came before Him. Jesus was the point of it all. Seems that some people nowadays still tend to get that priority out of whack.

Its real simple fellas. The Church is the Church, and Israel is Israel. Two things different are not the same. If you are confused about this don't feel bad. Even the Apostles didn't get it at first and the church as a whole has been screwing it up for 2000 years more or less. Most preachers do not properly use the Old Testament and add further to the confusion.

But don't stay confused. It leads to two big errors.

Error number 1......hating Jews. That's just ignorant. Don't get between God and the people to whom he has made "irrevocable" promises. They are a train wreck right now but let God handle them. Don't think that the church has taken their place. We haven't. The Jews are "his people". What is the church? The Bride of Christ right? We run around saying "Jesus is the Messiah", but what does that mean? It means Jesus is the King of Israel. What is the bride of a King. A queen right? What does a queen do? Sit beside her husband on a throne! That is what we are going to be doing in the Millennial Kingdom, which is going to be headquartered in Jerusalem. If you are Jew hater waiting on the Iraqis or the Russians, or the Chinese, or America or anyone else to destroy Israel......its gonna be a long wait.

Error number 2.........becoming a Judaizer. This is a Christian who tries to please God by attempting to observe parts of the Mosaic Law which they usually wind up completely half-assing to the point it would be funny if it were not sad. Observing dietary laws, putting on a shawl to pray, keeping the feast days, tithing because of Malachi 3, Jewish roots silliness etc. Don't do this either. Read Galatians. Don't fall from grace.

Hope this helps but it probably won't!

Believers in Jesus through Paul’s gospel of grace have salvation by faith in Jesus’ death and resurrection. That shouldn’t minimize the fact that Israel is still God’s chosen people who have an earthly destiny. God made His covenants with Israel, and only God can initiate and fulfill those covenants. God will complete His covenant program with Israel, as per scripture. If God were done with Israel, then God would be a liar.

The regathering predicted by the prophets will be fulfilled. The Old Testament prophesies and promises haven’t yet been fulfilled; none of the covenants have been completely fulfilled; Israel hasn’t yet become a nation of priests; the kingdom on earth in which Israel will be pre-eminent is unfulfilled; Jews don’t have their King Messiah yet; all Israel is not yet saved; and God’s wrath on Israel, Jacob’s Trouble, hasn’t yet occurred.

Romans 11 makes it clear that God hasn’t cast Israel aside. Everything God promised Israel through the covenants will be fulfilled when Jesus returns to set up His kingdom. God will NEVER forsake the nation of Israel, and Israel will last forever. In addition, the Jews will be brought back to their land in accordance with God’s promises in the Abrahamic Covenant.

"There failed not aught of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass."

- Joshua 21:45

And that was written during the Bronze Age.

Now, he did make a promise to Abraham, i.e., to make his name great, and that a great nation would come from him. That nation today consists of all who believe in Christ.

What does Astana mean in Kazakh?

the capital city

On 6 May 1998 it was renamed Astana, which means "the capital city" in Kazakh.

^^^^^ yep

Head Fake

The Jewish Temple will be built on the Ruins of the Lincoln Memorial which Is Much More Significant than the Temple Mount

Red Heifers and All..

keep Wiki telling yourself that

)%&(_$@#! SOB, Nailed it!!

Seriously?

It would have been unthinkable for a Jew under the Mosaic Law to even consider approaching God’s throne of grace with confidence and freedom like Jesus’ followers can now. Not even the high priest back then did that. But then something tremendously significant happened.

There’s an issue regarding the prophecies about the future rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem: some people believe that followers of Jesus today still need to be keeping the Mosaic Law, and that issue has to do with God’s presence. In the Torah there’s a proximal aspect to holiness so that the closer you are to God’s presence the closer you are to His blessing. And the further you are from God’s presence the further you are from His blessing.

In the beginning we humans had direct access to God. Then we humans disobeyed God and messed it up and sin entered the world. And humans were cast out of God’s immediate presence. And later, through the family of Abraham, and through the giving of the Law of Moses at Mt. Sinai, God began restoring human access to His presence.

God’s presence was in the Tabernacle, but under the Law of Moses, direct access to God’s presence was highly regulated. People couldn’t just wander into it. Only one person in all of Israel was allowed in the Most Holy Place, and then only just once a year. This whole set-up kept people at a distance, and made it clear that the direct immediate access that people once had to God had not been restored.

The Tabernacle later became a permanent Temple in Jerusalem. And it had the same holiness hierarchy that the Tabernacle had: the further you went in, the more holy it got, and the more restrictive it became. But as Jesus hung on the cross, He uttered a loud cry and breathed His last breath, and the curtain of the Temple that allowed access to the Most Holy Place was torn in two from top to bottom.

At Jesus’ death, this hierarchy of access to God’s presence was literally demolished. This curtain…prescribed in the Law of Moses…was destroyed at the death of the Messiah, and it was God Himself who destroyed it. Under the New Covenant that Jesus brought in, individual followers of Jesus can now have direct and immediate access to God. People can now…with confidence and freedom…approach God’s throne of grace and receive mercy and find grace to help in their time of need (Hebrews 4:16).

Honest question.

Pre-Jesus, what happened to all the folks who weren't lucky enough to be born a jew?

Salvation was always by faith in, and love of, God. Ones ethnicity has never had a thing to do with it.

That's a good question. Just because they weren’t Jews doesn’t mean that God didn’t care about the Gentiles. Not everything has been revealed to us, but there are a few things that are pretty clear.

We can see in the first chapter of Roman’s that all of mankind knows of God because God has shown them what may be known of Him. The witness of God in nature leaves mankind without excuse. But it is also clear that God had “shown” them other things by some type of revelation, in that they “exchanged the truth of God for a lie”. So God had some sort of interaction with them. Gentiles before the time of Jesus had the opportunity for salvation.

There was not much care shown by God toward gentiles in the OT.

Another poor excuse. The language and name, has nothing to do with satan, Wiki or me.