Why do you call me a phony? Do you have evidence that I am other than I have claimed?
You also stated an inaccuracy in the proceeding quote of yours. I never said I shot it, inferring that I was the hunter.
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Hell, the best he can come up with is a picture of a cow elk that only heaven knows who shot it ( he claims he did on his first post, but then dances around it and says he gave it a coup de grace with his 500)
I said I killed it. Which is precisely what I did.
Are you bored yet, or does libelling people excite you? If I posted my real name, and you attached your comments about me to it you would most definitely be guilty of libel (if anyone believed what you posted that is). So by me not posting my name I am helping keep you out of trouble. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Now if you simply say your sorry and apologize for the namecalling I will leave this site. Since it is becoming more and more obvious that I will not fit into the clique. Afterall I have been told I am an arrogant ass and point out all of your (collectively now) short comings.
Don't forget liar also, I think a phony is an under statement. Why don't you answer your own questions ( and those posed by others) and tell us of your specific hunting experiences. You dropped in here making all sorts of claims, and what was even more galling you claim to know our level of experience. I know you are a nothing but a troll and by answering you I just continue the agony, but you know what? you'll leave when you are ready to leave, you can't even hold true to your own statements ( how many times now have you said you weren't coming back?). Well how about it? what is your african hunting experience? And I think most of us here have probably seen you under another name before. I suggest you get help. jorge
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
My my we are testy aren't we. I assure you have only posted here at "AC_of_AR" and only started within the last, what week. Now why would I answer any questions asked of me by someone who is so courteous as to call me a phony and a liar? At this point I wouldn't answer any of your pathetic "feel better about myself" questions if you had a gun to my head.
I have learned in a very short time how these little internet cliques work, and evidently you are one of the prissy little g___s that run this clique. It must really p!ss you off to no end, and obviously does based upon your comments about me, that someone would actually challenge any of your "expert" opinions. I realize that several other do not appreciate my comments, but you sir, have been the most caustic.
Now do us both a favor and leave me alone. I will most certainly do likewise (what form that takes is up to me, but right now I believe leaving this site would be a good start).
(what form that takes is up to me, but right now I believe leaving this site would be a good start).
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All together now, let's wave bye-bye!! Holy mackeral dere, Andy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Hey AC, before you go better check out the big bore section, some poor soul just bought a 404 Jeffery. Better go tell him it wont kill any thing past 30 feet & the bullets blow up on muskrat fur before he wastes more money on Woodleighs. ( mebbe spelled it wrong but I could care less, so don't bother). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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"It is better to die a free man, weapon in hand, than to live life as a coward & a slave"
"Hunted with" aint the same thing as harvested game with.
I have hunted with my 416, but have yet to have it in my hands when there was something to kill.
I would love to have a 450 too, or a 458 W or Lott, or 460Weatherby. But more than that I would love AR to ( Nothing acceptable to a decent forum comes to mind.) Oh just go away [bleep].
Back to the issue, at least for me, the .416s are much easier to shoot than the bigger stuff (like some others here as well). Maybe not significantly so at close range and standing, but for more all round use where the shots may be long and quite deliberate, from the sit or some other substantial position where the recoil does matter. From my very limited experience, the bigger guns do hit harder, but not enough to make me carry one.
This is my first post and frankly don’t know why there is so much postering. Here is my experience from my May 2023 hunt in South Africa. I hunted plains game with my Mauser M98 375 H&H and my Cape Buffalo with my Mauser M98 450 Rigby. Except for a one shot Axis deer hunt in Texas using a 300 WM, I had not hunted since my mid-30s and I was 71 when I hunted Africa last year. I am no John Wayne hero type, nor am I a masochist. I had a mercury piston and muzzle brake installed on both. The 375 is down to the level of an -06 and the 450 shove was acceptable compared to the sharp and painful recoil of the 300 WM. What that means is all this banter of recoil from a 416 vs 450 is silly and unnecessary. I took down my measured 46” horn spread Cape Buffalo with one shot using a hand loaded (by my friend and oufitter) 500 gr Swift A Frame soft at about 100 yds. (Note: my PH set me up for where he thought the bull would come out at 30 yds but that bull didn’t listen to him I guess). Dropped in 40 yds. (Double lung slight quartering with a complete energy dump shown by my recovering a perfectly mushroomed bullet pushing out the hide on its left side that looked like it hadn’t lost a grain).
Cape Buffalo are very tough animals. There are many verifiable stories aplenty about bulls shaking off many shots from a “bazooka” round and only succumbing at the feet of the hunter and PH from a barrage of shots on the charging bull. Moral of this story is, get a recognized DG caliber you can shoot well and it is the luck of the draw on whether your bull succumbs quickly (as mine did) or instead decides you need to die, regardless if shot with a 375, 416, 450, 505, or 760 for that matter. After all, if a particular caliber were the say all, be all, why is there a need for a PH or two when hunting DG? And for that matter, if that were the case why are there so many hunter/PH deaths each year by the horns of Black Death? It ain’t because the bulls were shot with BBs.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I did a search on a particular question I had. This thread popped up. I see now the age of the post; I didn’t when I wrote my post. The age of the post shouldn’t matter since the basis of the post is as relevant today as it was in 2005. That said, I can see that, as I feared, only knuckle dragging fifth grade buffoons wanting to take cheap shots dwell in this cavern of empty mindedness forum.
Learned my lesson. You proved why I regard forums as the bastion of the self-pontificating buffoons and ignoramuses.
I did a search on a particular question I had. This thread popped up. I see now the age of the post; I didn’t when I wrote my post. The age of the post shouldn’t matter since the basis of the post is as relevant today as it was in 2005. That said, I can see that, as I feared, only knuckle dragging fifth grade buffoons wanting to take cheap shots dwell in this cavern of empty mindedness forum.
Learned my lesson. You proved why I regard forums as the bastion of the self-pontificating buffoons and ignoramuses.
Good bye and good riddance.
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I did a search on a particular question I had. This thread popped up. I see now the age of the post; I didn’t when I wrote my post. The age of the post shouldn’t matter since the basis of the post is as relevant today as it was in 2005. That said, I can see that, as I feared, only knuckle dragging fifth grade buffoons wanting to take cheap shots dwell in this cavern of empty mindedness forum.
Learned my lesson. You proved why I regard forums as the bastion of the self-pontificating buffoons and ignoramuses.
Good bye and good riddance.
Thin skin and the internet are not a good combination
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
I did a search on a particular question I had. This thread popped up. I see now the age of the post; I didn’t when I wrote my post. The age of the post shouldn’t matter since the basis of the post is as relevant today as it was in 2005. That said, I can see that, as I feared, only knuckle dragging fifth grade buffoons wanting to take cheap shots dwell in this cavern of empty mindedness forum.
Learned my lesson. You proved why I regard forums as the bastion of the self-pontificating buffoons and ignoramuses.
Good bye and good riddance.
Thin skin and the internet are not a good combination
Geeez and no one told him to GFY.
You can't be all recoil shy and survive on the interwebs.
