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Doug at cameraland has the 6.5-20x50 target model with mil-dot for a VERY good price. Does anyone have info concerning repeatability in the turrets? I learned long ago a good deal is not always a good deal. I like the Conquests as hunting scopes, just never twisted 'em up and down enough to trust 'em.

I"ve run a couple, every time we move, they move what they are supposed to. Beats all my leupys and others hands down.

Just shot one last night again, it was 5.5 inches high as measured, I came down 4 inches in clicks, it is now 1.5 inches high. It was 1 inch left and I kinda was chicken and moved .5 inches right. Ended up moving the other 2 clicks to center... like it should be.

I have same scope on my one rifle. Zeroed @ 100 meters, I would crank up 13 inches and hit a 8 inch plate at 500 meters after doping and adjusting for wind.Then, when I go back to my zero, I'm spot on at 100 meters again. It has never given me a moments problem and I've had it for 4 years.

I've heard repeatedly that the only scopes on the market that reliably repeat windage and elevation are Nightforce scopes. I don't know how true that is but they are very expensive. I'd read about them and see what makes them so good and compare that to what Zeiss is doing.

Excellent scopes. Very repeatable. Crystal clear. Installed on on a friends .223 tactical, clicks back and forth from yardages out to 500. great scope.

LC

Thanks for the input.

I've a 4.5-14x50 and it'll take my 308 from 100-600 and back including windage with narry an issue.

I called Zeiss today to ask about adjustment range. I was informed that it was 47 MOA stop to stop. So, I guess 23 MOA vertical from a perfect zero is what you have to work with. Even with a 20 MOA base it won't get a .308 to 1K. Bummer

I guess I did remember OK. Sorry about raining on the parade.

I have shot mine from 500, to 400, down to 300 then back to 100 where my "0" is, and everytime it is dead nuts!

I don't think repeatability of adjustment out to 500 yards and back is the problem. If I'm reading my Hornady table correctly, getting a 308 zeroed at 1000 is going to require about 40" of up at 100. There's the rub.

You could go with a Farrel or similar 20min base and Burris sinature rings with 20 MOA offset. That should surley give you more than enough for 1000.

Lefty

I have a 6-24 victory on my 7wsm. It has been very repeatible thus far, but with the scope mounted in tallys I can only get enough adjustment for 900 yards shooting the 180 bergers. I could go further using the mil dots in conjunction with the dial if I could figure the centimeters/hundred meters deal out a little better.
Is the adjustment on the conquests backwards also? If the adjustments were not backwards and were in MOA rather than cm/hm the 6x24 would be the perfect scope IMO.

He could certainly get to 1000 with that travel, but the trick is getting to 1000 and still being able to get a 100 yd zero. If his 308 load takes 47 MOA (that could probably be improved upon a bit though) and the scope only has 47 MOA of movement, he'd need have it bottomed out perfectly at one end for one range and at the other end for the other range. The odds of this happening with exactly a 20 MOA base are pretty low; it's likely to be off one way or another. The Signature rings could allow for some fudging, but in the end I think it'll save lots of headaches to use a scope with more travel.

Does the scope have "centimeter clicks?" If so, that's what I and many others greatly prefer with a Mil reticle--they match. "1 Centimeter" click (@100m) is simply a .1 Mil click. 10 clicks from one dot on the reticle to the next.

There's no need to worry about MOA, or convert to meters either. Simply print/record drop data in Mils vs yards instead of MOA. I like that better as well because everything is nicely only two digits long out to way out there:



And those are in yards. So say my scope was extremely limited with less than 20 MOA of "up" (a bit over 5 Mils) available from a 100 yd zero. That would only get me to 850 yds. If I wanted to go farther, I could just continue with the reticle--for 1250yds dial 5.0 ("50 cm") plus 4 mildots down on the reticle would be a total of 9 Mils. Bam! Dead gong.

Of course I prefer to have enough travel, I'm just saying don't get down on your scope because of the Mil clicks. You have a Mil reticle, having both the same is highly useful for many things. If given a chance, you may warm up to it. Another thing that works so well is the wind. Say I call the wind at a nice, even effective 10 MPH at 850 yds. I can dial 10 clicks or I can simply hold one Mil on the reticle. Or at 1250 hold slightly over 1 1/2 on the reticle or simply dial 16 clicks. It doesn't get any easier.

Thanks for the good info.....I didnt realize that 1 cm/hm is equal to .1 mil. I am going to play with it a little more, but I have just been using each dot as 5cm/hm on the scopes highest magnification and dialing the excess. It is more of a learning curve issue I guess. I am about a year into LRH and just got real comfortable with MOA I am always trying to expand my knowledge so I will play with it more until I figure it out.

18MOA gets my 270 win to 800, thats really all I care about because that is only one full turn on the turret, I keep saying it ziess offers 18MOA with one turn, noone else offers that with 1/4 adjustments the turret is also easy to operate and read. I used my turretted 3x9 conquest to wack coyotes at 666 and 400+,

some complain about not getting a 308 to 1k with 46MOA, if this is your problem I say you would be better of switching to a caliber with more zip to it, the 308 is weak, get something on the 6.5 bore and shoot flatter with less drift

That's a very good point and I agree. I find more clicks per turn very nice, especially when it keeps you from having to go one more at a particular distance.

Well, there are some. Most here probably know about USO's EREK (22.5 MOA per turn with 1/4 MOA clicks). Another some may not know about since it's so new:



IOR's new big knobs on some of their scopes. In 1/4 MOA form like the above, they're 25 MOA per turn (100 clicks). In Mil form (like on the 3-18 FFP) they're 10 mils (34.4 MOA) with .1 Mil (.36" @ 100) clicks. Being able to get out to 1300 yds on the first turn without really big 1/2 or 1 MOA clicks is pretty nice.

Anyway, that scope isn't what the question was about...but good point.