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I dont reload, does any of the ammo companies offer the tipped tsx in the 30-06?
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Not in 30-06 - yet anyway, but Federal does load the TTSX in their Hyper-velocity ammo. Ironically, it is offered in 270 but not '06.
P270WSMF 270 WSM 110-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps P270Q 270 Win 110-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3400 fps P300WSMK 300 WSM 130-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps P300WL 300 Win Mag 130-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps
It would seem natural that the 30-06 would appear, probably as a lightweight, in 30-06 if they develop the line.
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I shoot Swift Aframes, Hornady, and Barnes bullets. I own three different makes of rifles, Ruger, Winchester and Montana.
I've got no vested interest in what you choose or why. All I can do is tell you what I choose and why.
REALLY enjoyed everything you wrote, and the work you put into writing on this thread. I love to see another " bullet digger" and an opinion, if biased, that is based on fact and performance... Your experience with different brands of bullets so exactly mirrors mine that there is nothing to add. Thanks for a true voice of reason and experience. Ingwe
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JJ,
I have been shooting the 100TSX out of a 257ROY, getting excellent accuracy, usually around .5 - .6". Only took one deer with that combo, which was a neck shot on a doe, which really isn't a valid sample...
Anyway, I bought the 100TTSX to try out and what I have found is they appear to reach higher pressure with the same load as the TSX and in my rifle, have not gotten them to shoot anywhere near as well as the TSX.
Just wondering what your observations have been using the .308 version....
Tony
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Campfire Greenhorn
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Not in 30-06 - yet anyway, but Federal does load the TTSX in their Hyper-velocity ammo. Ironically, it is offered in 270 but not '06.
P270WSMF 270 WSM 110-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps P270Q 270 Win 110-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3400 fps P300WSMK 300 WSM 130-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps P300WL 300 Win Mag 130-gr Tipped Triple-Shock 3500 fps
It would seem natural that the 30-06 would appear, probably as a lightweight, in 30-06 if they develop the line. Hopefully federal offers something in a 30-06. That 270-110gr looks interesting. I wonder how the 110gr would work on elk?
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How about the MRX? Improved version of the TTSX? They are currently offering this in the 06
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I have seen the MRX, and its about $20 more that other highquality ammo. What are the major improvements that the MRX has over the TTSX?
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Tungsten core, higher BC, shoots flatter with less wind drift at long range. Is it better than the TTSX? I would say no. It, along with every other bullet with a core, has the potential for core separation. I would say the TTSX is a better bullet for targets with a lot of resistance.
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I would say that anyone who wants to try MRXs or likes them ought to be buying them now. Based on what I have seen with Barnes' products, I think it is likely that the MRX will not be around long with the advent of the TTSX. AS far as that goes, I am holding out for buying quantities of the TSX when they are phased out in favor of the TTSX.
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I would say that anyone who wants to try MRXs or likes them ought to be buying them now. Based on what I have seen with Barnes' products, I think it is likely that the MRX will not be around long with the advent of the TTSX. +1 on that....boolits are like any other business. Sales drive the industry. MRXs aren't selling.... Ingwe
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Tungsten core, higher BC, shoots flatter with less wind drift at long range. Is it better than the TTSX? I would say no. It, along with every other bullet with a core, has the potential for core separation. I would say the TTSX is a better bullet for targets with a lot of resistance. I have been shooting the MRX for a few years now, 180 in 30-378. they pre-date the TTSX, or i wouldnt be using them. when the snow melts i will be working on a 180 TTSX load, the MRX'x are nearing 40$ per 20 around here, i too believe this bullet will be discontinued. also, at least in the 30 cal 180, the B.C is higher for the TTSX! so much for the maximum range stuff. after testing for years with the partition(great bullet)the TBBC(also great) accubond(still great), I beleave i have found the greatest big game bullet of all in the barnes, imo of corse. i have taken around 12 head of game, pronghorn,deer,elk,moose,bear, from ranges between 20 and 760 yards, dont think i could have asked more from a bullet on any of them kills.
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Yes they do Corbon has loaded ammo in the DPX LINE FOR 30-06.THEY OFFER 168 and 180gr TSX'S for the 30-06.
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Nice read. You might enjoy it too.
Oh heck, it needed to come up for some air..
Have a great day.
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I used to shoot tons of the Jack Carter Bear Claws. They work! I have some new tipped ones I need to try. I use the 168 TTSX in my 300 Win mag, 150 TTSX in my 06’s. They are quick killers.
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For the information of any who wish it, Barsnes makes a 165 gr. TSX and a 168 gr. TSX in .30 caliber. The 165's are for the .300 magnums and the 168, with a slightly longer nose and higher BC, are designed for the 30'06 and the .308... I did not know that. When I started reloading for my .300 Weatherby in 2009 I chose the 168 gr TSX because of its slightly higher BC. Same in 2012 when I switched to the 168 TTSX. Both bullets gave me sub moa accuracy and have performed very will on everything that I have shot with them.
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Having used the Barnes bullets since they first came out. Starting with the original X bullet & then transitioned to the now TSX & TTSX. As a6.5 shooter I use the Barnes 120gr TSX to take elk each season. Every one a complete pass thru. I have observed friends using the 308 & 30-06 using the Barnes 130g on elkr. I understand your skepticism, but these 130 gr will absolutely amaze you . They take elk cleanly with complete pass thru. With a velocity of 3300FPS safely from an 06 the Barnes 130gr TTSX truly will amaze you.
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I just bought some 130 grain T-TSX .308 caliber to try in my 308 Win. 84M I didn't plan to shoot them in my 30-06. It's just a thought. The 150 and 168 T-TSX shoot very well in my 30-06.
You all have a good weekend.
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I need to try the 130’s in my 308’s
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I shot original Barnes through my 7 mag many years ago. They worked great and I killed several elk and three Oryx with them. I quit with Barnes, when I got a second rifle as I had to back off a bunch on the powder, to get them to shoot safely in the new rifle. It must have had a tighter barrel and did not like the copper. I never went back to them in any caliber, as I never saw a need to. I have always shot Partitions at elk and Partitions and Interlocks on deer and antelope. Barnes bullets are not cheap and for what I hunt, they kill no better than any other bullet.
That being said, if I ever decided to use one of my 6.5s on elk, I would seriously consider the 127lrx. I don't think that there is anything that will consistently out-penetrate a Barnes. I just do not feel that I need Barnes penetration on deer and antelope, or even elk, when using higher-caliber rifles. I have not, to my recollection, caught ANY 160 Partitions in elk shot with my 7 mags. I shot a couple antelope and around a dozen deer this season using Hornady Interlocks and ELDM in the .260 and cm and never caught a single bullet. The results were predictable.
If I was just starting into the hunting game, instead of on the back side of it and only had one rifle, then it would be a no-brainer to use the Barnes bullets.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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