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I just bought my first Kahles CL last month. I only picked it up because I came across a super price, and couldn't resist. In my opinion, it is better optically than my VXIII's and Conquests, but not quite as good as the Zeiss Victory's.
Again, just my opinion, but, if you can afford the Kahles, go for it. You won't be sorry.
Lee F.
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-John Wayne
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you answered your own question "VXIII 3.5-10X40" - a vxII 4x12 would be fine also!
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Sightron SII Big Sky Series. Great glass, built in turrets, (I believe rainguard too).
Got my 6x42 for under $300 shipped.
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For me, there are two types of LR scopes that will match the potential of your 7 mag: those with dots or those with turrets. Combined with a rangefinder, I can use either one to make first-shot hits as far as my ethics permit (500 yards or so.) I know that many tactical scopes have both, but I think that is a throwback to the era when the mil dots were used for ranging, and the turret for adjusting. In the laser rangefinder era, I can use them interchangably, and don't need both.
So a 3.5x10 40 mm VX-III with an M1 turret would seem to me to be a perfect match (in fact, I have an old 4x12 Vari-xII with a target turret on a heavy barreled 7 mag that is a long range demon. But you could do just as well with one of the ranging reticles. And while I think the 2.5x8 is about the perfect all around scope, it is beginning to lag behind the potential of the 7 mag.
YMMV There you have it, or I could send you a PM like someone's dad and attempt to sway you. Let me know.
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I am not sure, but the syntax makes me think that is the "Steelhead is drinking tonight" seal of approval.
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Dude, I'm Morman. No drinks, just lots of wives, course they ain't mine.
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Don't have a rangefinder yet... But I'm going to have one. It sounds like the Leica is the way to go. I need the scope before the range finder since its going to be used this hunting season in GA, where I don't really need a range finder. The only reason I want the range compensating reticle is for versatility. I know myself, if the gun is capable of shooting to 500 yards but the scope really isn't, I won't be happy, even if I don't use the reticle. I know... I need counseling.... I plan on turning the gun into a semi/full custom eventually. Looks like Im probably going to narrow it down to a VXIII, Conquest, or Kahles. And from the sounds of it its going to be in the 3-9X40 to 3.5-10x42 catagory. I think my choice would be #1 Kahles, #2. Conquest and the VXIII last. Now ive just got to decide if the Kakles is really worth the extra coin. IMO the conquest or VXIII is all you really need, but then again, ive never had anything better...
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I have the Rapiz-Z 600 reticle in a Conquest 3.5x10x44... pretty sweet scope IMHO. Worth a look. The B&C reticle in Leupold 2.5x8's also works very very well.
The B&C will get you out to 500 yards but it'll be sputtering a little when it gets there- in the sense that the 500-yard aiming point is a little... lame in my opinion. The RZ-600 will get you to 650 yards with an actual crosshair out to 600 yards. But, it's a more complex, less traditional reticle.
Not to get embroiled in the usual controversy by saying this, but the 2.5x8 Loopy has some attributes that make it a very cool hunting scope IMHO... whether or not the glass is quite as good as Brand X or whatever, it's plenty good IMHO. Great scopes. Don't write them off due to all the craziness on the Optics forum lately.
-jeff
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JO.. Thanks for the advice on the 2.5-8x36. How does it work in low light??? Low light is more important to me out in Ga than it is hunting elk and whitetails in eastern WA. I have a VXIII 3.5-10 that works well, but I do need to turn it way down at the last minutes of shooting light to see. Im leaning towards one of Dougs Conquests with the rapid z.
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