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I am going to go with Steyr-Mannlicher and their hammer forged barrels. I also like the barrels with the hammer forging pattern showing on the thicker portion of the barrel. They shoot well, and look good too.
+1 on those . I don't think cooper builds their own barrels Or their own actions. Both come from Wilson. Or used to. I've heard competition shoots will not allow Coopers in the production/stock class but make them shoot with the custom builds. My vote for the most accurate factory barrels would be Sako with no experience with Steyrs.
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A word for Marlin lever actions. My two are very accurate and clean very easily.
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I have owned a lot of rifles including Sako, Remmy, Marlin,Ruger and Savage. I have yet to best any of my Savages for accuracy.
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Must say, every Savage I have shot enough to know has shot every bit as well as any factory rifle I've seen.
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Steyr..has my vote..super accurate!!!
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Of all the rifles I own my CZs are bar far the most accurate.
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Tikka, because I have two. 338 Win Mag & 270 Winchester. I'm told that Tikka uses Sako bbls.
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You know, out of all my factory rifles, which don't include the Steyr, Sako, or Tikka. What Shouldershot said! My Marlin 444P and 1894 shoot well and have VERY smooth barrels.
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I've had I think 7 major brands and I would say the best has been sako, then tikka. I think the finns have it figured out.
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Krupp barrels are really good too especially the Heym ...
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Another vote for Tikka/Sako. The only barrel that comes close to my 30BR Douglas Barrel under borescope inspection is my .308 Tikka. I have to give CZ and Winchester high marks also.
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I would go with Tikka based on a sample of three. With no witchcraft involved all are submoa out of the box with cheapo factory ammo. They are minimal copper foulers that clean up super easy. I can say I have several Remingtons covering a 20 year time span and the best one is only equal to any of the Tikkas.
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Ditto on the Tikka. Every one I own shoots smaller than 1/2 moa. And as stated earlier, clean up with very little effort.
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Of the rifles that own I would say Steyr, Sako, and CZ. All of these have shot under 1" with loads they like. All are factory out of the box. Special mention to a pre 64 300H&H that will also shoot under 1".
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I'm not biased with this question, just curious. All those voting for Tikka, how many have used a Steyr barrel?
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Of the bigger mass produced rifle barrels the ones that are consistently finished the nicest looking through my borescope are the ones on sako/tikkas(same barrels) and they generally shoot pretty good. With that said, just because a barrels interior looks well finished does not always mean they will shoot good. Lots of those ugly pitted, toolmarked barrels by remchestersavage etc shoot lights out as many here can attest to. You can't always judge a bore by its appearance.
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I agree that just because a barrel is smooth it doesnt guarantee an accurate rifle, but there are alot of votes for Tikka and Sako so far, and I would bet that most of them come from owners without a borescope. I have a Savage .308 that shoots well with its favorite load, and a Tikka that shoots well with almost anything and that is the difference.
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I've always thought an absence of "finnickyness" distinguished the very best barrels from the rest.
I've never had a finnicky Tikka or Sako - and the Tikkas just shoot everything well, IME.
I do have a Mountain Rifle contour Remmy factory barrel in 243 that is bone stock and shooting everything as well as any Tikka I've owned...Also have Kimber Montanas in 7-08 and 300WSM which shoot what they like very well, but there's stuff they don't like which they don't shoot very well.
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I think the recent production Ruger barrels are excellent! I have heard that the barrels go through a 5 step honing process afetr the hole is drilled and before hammer forging.
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