Home Forums Miscellaneous Topics Second Amendment Home Depot and Guns

Having read that HD prohibited all guns in their stores I queried them on the issue. Here is their response I received today.
No more HD for me.
Jerry

["Hello Jerry,

Thank you for your feedback.

The Home Depot has a long-standing policy prohibiting the possession of ALL weapons in its stores. Consistent with that policy, customers are prohibited from carrying firearms in our stores. Where required by local legislation, The Home Depot will install necessary signage to reiterate this policy to all customers.

Regards,

Liza
Customer Care Department
homedepot.com"]

Well....it is their store, so if they don't want guns, so be it. If I don't like their policy I won't shop there. Is it an inconvenience? Not for me. Is it Anti-Gun? Depends on the motive. Certainly a sign of the times.

Dear Home Depot;

With regards to your policy of banning defensive weapons from your stores, I am serving you notice that I expect Home Depot to assume ALL liability for my safety while I�m on the premises.

If ANYTHING should happen to me, or person in my charge, which could have been prevented by my use of legal and appropriate means of self-defense, I will prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law and vigorously pursue the matter in civil court.

Have a nice day.

JOG

Hey Martin and others

the second amendment gives the people the right to keep and bear arms, now it does not state where us can bear them or concealment, but the big one is that this right shall not be infringed. This means if anyone or any thing or any law infringes on it they are violating your right weather it is a corporation or anything. Next look at Michigan where I reside the michigan constitution states in the Bill of Rights Article 6 says you have the right to keep and bear arms for you self protection and the protection of the state. Check out the state constitution of the state you live in. We as freemen have this right and try not to enter into contracts like when you purchase a firearm.

food for thought
bearbeater

bearbeater,

I hate to burst your bubble, but you seem to be under the common misconception that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights pertain to private relationships. They do not. What the Bill of Rights provides is that the GOVERNMENT, including states, counties, and cities, cannot infringe on your right of free speech, right to bear arms, etc. Your right to bear arms does not mean that I have to let you carry onto my private property. BTW, when liberals howl that it is a violation of the free speech rights of celebrities to call for boycotting them for their asinine anti-U.S. statements, they are under the same misconception. You and I are free to assert our disapproval by directing our $$$ elsewhere. I am not a lawyer, but please feel free to verify what I have said with a legal professional.

Paul

Hey paul

I am not an atterny, one of the professionals, because what people dont realize is that all goverment is ,is a contract. for example all of us enter into a contract when you or me get a drivers license, we enter into a contract that you will obey what ever drivers code that you contract to obey. Fail to obey, a LEO aka police will violate your right to free and unrestricted travel and the corporate courts will covict you and take your hard earned nagotiable instrument. Now if you or a home depot enters into a contract with a local or state or federal goverment to do business they must abide to all your rights as a citizen of the goverment. For example they have to comply with building codes because the public enters their building to do business, they by contract code must build handicap ramps (contract). where is this leading to, unles you have a contract with them not to carry in the building the business has to comply with your rights. Just MY OPINION
As far as lawers go they are a menber of the country club and are a part of the corporate court. Just my opinion
The more we learn the more we learn how much we are duped. I can go on all night so I will git off the soap box.

My 2 cents
bearbeater

B/B

I remain unconvinced in the position you've taken. If you came to my house armed I would be within my right to ask you to leave. Your right to carry doesn't over ride my right to ask you to leave. While HD holds itself out as a business, which is more public in nature, it remains private property. Before you could carry in Michigan HD didn't need a policy as it wasn't legal. Like yourself this is my opioion.

I beleive you know this but there are locations where you are not allowed to carry. I've lost a cheap (small) jack knives entering a court house and airport. There are public parks not open to hunting where possessing a firearm is against the law and citizens are prohibited from carrying. There are other parks where a persons ability to carry is limited to being a licensed hunter in season.

All the gloom and doom that was forcast about people being allowed to carry in Michigan hasn't taken place; people aren't commonly shooting each other on the streets, But neither are people any more polite. I don't hear much of armed citizens stopping crime, it does occur. A vast majority of the population simply doesn't want to use deadly force themselves and leave that to the police.

I feel that myself and family would be exposed to more potential danger from having a loaded gun around day in and day out then any danger we faced. I would add that I live in a reasonable neighborhood although some may carry. I worry more about the drivers I face on the road as that is a clear danger that occurs so much more then incidents where guns are used on purpose..

Bear, not trying to hold you back just have a little differient prospective. As long as its your right to carry go ahead.

hey 1885

I very much respect your opinion. My question is how do you cook a frog? Start with nice comfortable water then slowly turn up the heat then the frog will welcome death. I am a law abiding citizen and never been arrested but I have learned and studied and searched for truth. along the way have stumbled onto things that I did not believe and could not accept at first, became very angry then found out that the truth is covered with crap. with out going into specific topics that we can understand you will have to start with one topic and follow the trail just like tracking a deer. the easiest one is the money system. Satrt there with the federal reserve and work to today. Hint, the federal reserve is not part of the goverment. another hint, understand what law is and what law is not. I have been on a 27 year quest and I just begun. I have alot more to say but I wont keep all of you.

bearbeater

I WAITED A WHILE FOR A H-D TO OPEN HERE,,FOR THE THINGS THATS OTHERS DIDN'T /WOULDN'T CARRY,,THIS CHANGES THINGS.REMEMBER WHEN ROSIE O WAS A SPOKESMAN FOR K-MART AND PEARL HARBORED TOM SELLECK ABOUT BEING A GUNNER,,WE TOLD "K" TO DUMP HER OR WE WOULD KEEP OUR $$$$,,THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE US ,,,,TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO RECOVER,,,BY THIER OWN ADMISSION!!!THESE DAYS THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$TALKS LOUDER THAN EVER,,,SO JUST LET THEM KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS AND FOLLOW THRU,,ARGUEING THE POINTS OF LAW/CONST./BILL O RIGHTS TAKES TOO LONG AND THE BEAN COUNTERS COULD CARE LESS,,ALTHOUGH THE POST ABOUT LETTING THEM KNOW THAT YOU WILL HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SAFETY ,,ETC.,,,IS A GREAT IDEA <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Hey man

I agree follow the money. as one of my backwoods mentors once said Love makes the world go round but money greeses the wheel.

bearbeater

just trying to educate

Question? If HD don't allow guns or firearms, why do they sell NAIL GUNS using 22cal? And weapons such as KNIVES, SAWS,HAMMERS ect?? They should ENFORCE the policy they set forth

infringe on my rights,...boycot 'em. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> I always get a kick out of threads like this. try this...before going into ANY public facility (retail or otherwise, call ahead and inquire if they allowed the carrying of weapons on thier premises. you'll likely be boycotting A LOT of places you frequent. These places are private properties and are not subject to free carry laws that everyone thinks they are. Just as already been mentioned. I have every right (Oh, that's any overused word these days) to ask you to NOT carry on my property. you going to be 100% liable - and accepting of - any problems that may occur because of you possessing a weapon there? yeah right. I'm not taking HD's side but I am respecting thier right (there's that word again) to control thier environment/property.
Hmmm...so people expect one party - in this case HD - to give up thier right to control thier property/premises so that another can exercise thiers? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hey savi


I agree boycot the SOB's and as far as the wepons they sell they are hipocrits and the truth of the matter they fear us all the firearm owners that is until they need us.

bearbeater

I can't speak for any other part of the country, but here in Idaho, where many, many men and women have CCWs, I've not seen any signs at the Boise Home Depot, proscribing the carrying of firearms. Maybe they're there and I've just missed them, but with the amount of people "packin' heat" in these parts, H.D. might lose a significant part of their sales, if they put up a sign like tht.

I have to go get a couple things there tomorrow. I'll check 'em out. And, as always, I'll be armed.

L.W.

UPDATE ON BOISE HOME DEPOT.

I went there today, and checked both entrances. There was not one sign forbidding firearms in Boise's Home Depot. I did not ask for the store manager to ask him if it were okay to carry guns in his store. But there were no signs outside, or inside, regarding firearms.

L.W.

Alot of times you get the big HD policy and then at the store level you get the real policy. Local manager in Boise is probably packin' and if BIG HD asks about the signs it is easy to claim ignorance or they were vandalized- have to order some more.

Andrew

Pretty interesting debate here.
Yes, HD is private, and private business have a right to exclude firearms as a matter of policy. But then we need not patronize them either.
But if I have a CCW and am victimized, having left my trusty Colt .45 Auto under the seat in the parking lot in respect of their policy...sounds like grounds for a lawsuit.
And no, we don't have any signs up at our local Home Depot. Not an issue, not with all those trucks with rifles out in the parking lot and dang little crime. I don't recall hearing of any armed robberies lately, although there have been two rapes and a sex assault in the past month which has everyone on edge. (We're not jaded yet.)

1885;
Your comparing apples and oranges. YOUR home is private property, particularly if unincumbered, HD is an open to the public business operating under (several) goverment issued contracts ie: Corporate Charter, to name just one.

Under the UCC, (Federal, State and Municipal governments and ALL Corporations operate under the UCC) all contracts that are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void. (when ENFORCED)

I believe BB was trying to point out the venues that you were attempting to view as one, however, Commercial and Constitutional are seperate and distinct, and rarely the twain shall meet.

Keep in mind that this is a store policy, not a law. They can state that they don't want you carrying on their property and if they find that you are carrying then they can ask you to leave, but that's it. If you go walking in there carrying then you're not breaking any law. We're confusing a store policy with a law.

It's just like the signs on the top shelf that tell you not to remove the items yourself but to get an employee. What are they going to do if you climb up there and get something, have you arrested?

Crow Hunter,
Sounds like turnip green and cornbread logic to me.

I like it!

GB