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My .356 has been dormant for a couple years now, maybe its time to bring it back out. Is Speer still making their 180 and 220gr flat points? Don't know about the Speers XX, is the lever 356 rated for the same pressures as the loads discussed here? I don't think I'd want to try any "hot" .358 loads in my 94, although a factory .358 I believe should technically be fine. I found my particular rifle always chrono'd faster than it should, 180 Speers clocked well over 2700fps with H4198. It seemed fine but made me a bit nervous so I backed it down a bit. 10-4 XX, you know if a man wanted to build a most any game load in that 356 he could order some 225 gr Woodleigh round nosed soft point bullets from Midway, give em a good hard crimping at the proper col with a Lyman factory crimp die and you're all set. IIRC that bullet expands well down to 1800 fps, started at an easy 2400 fps would take your 356 out past 250 long yards and hammer the HELL outta any critter up close, just a thought.  And a fine thought it is too. I'll see if I can find any when I get home.
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Here are some loads I came up with when trying some newer powders in the .358 for an article a few years ago. These were also in a Ruger Hawkeye stainless/synthetic, with Winchester brass:
200 Hornady Norma 201/52.0 2753 .78
200 TSX TAC/52.0 2749 1.15
225 Sierra TAC/49.0 2552 1.47
250 Hornady RN TAC/48.0 2404 .95
250 Nosler Part. TAC/48.0 2423 1.44
That's great information to have. I wouldn't have guessed that a .358 would give 2400 fps with a 250 grain bullet. I guess it does make sense though since I was used to getting 2550 fps with my .35 Whelen when I had it.
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After digesting this thread the .358 win has been a sleeper cartridge for too many years. More has been written on the campfire on the .35 whelen than this little gem (.358 win).
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I haven't killed anything with the 250gr Norma Oryx yet, doing 2375 with TAC, but it damn sure SMACKS steel.
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I have a 358 Win but have not tried TAC yet. BUT I was at a gunshow last weekend and picked up an 8 pound jug for $130, tax included. Could not believe my eyes when I saw it, of course the dealer only had one. Just over $16 per pound! Made my day!
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I haven't killed anything with the 250gr Norma Oryx yet, doing 2375 with TAC, but it damn sure SMACKS steel. i don't have a .358, but i do have a 350rem mag, a 358norma mag, and a .375 winchester. Smacking things is absolutely what it sounds like when you hit something.
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I love my little .358. 20" barrel on a 700adl. Stocked with a Boyds laminated, and topped with a straight 4x.
The first box bullets I found was the 225gr Sierra, and they shot so well that I haven't tried anything else. I'm getting 2500+/- with Reloader 10x.
Really does a job on deer and black bear. May try it on moose this fall. Truly one of the great rounds out there.
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