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"My solution would be to carry chambered and practice good gun handling, but that's just me. "


Well you know what they say about opinions. One of the biggest rules we adhere to is an empty pipe until ready to fire. I would MUCH rather risk the rifle not going into battery over carrying chambered, the chambered rifle is far more dangerous than a bear! Its hard to maintain "good gun handling" while rideing, or climbing, not to mention the occasion slip and tumble down a hillside, and thats what 90% of our hunting time intails.

The ability to carry empty and still quickly and fairly quietly chamber a round is one of the biggest reasons I perfer bolt actions. slow closing the bolt on the 750 has proven to work, the rifle won't fire if it isn't in battery, so this was the safest option I have had.

Understood, Josh.

Anyway, with semi's it's best to let them slam into battery; that's how they were designed. At least every one I've ever used.

I'm not arguing that fact that the "should" be slammed jeff, I agree that that is best, but I needed to figure a way to load fairly quietly if the case arose.

I'm not arguing that fact that they "should" be slammed jeff, I agree that that is best, but I needed to figure a way to load fairly quietly if the need arose.

Well... if it works, then there ya go, right? Just do it about a thousand times to make SURE it works, keep that chamber clean, use new or FL-sized brass... etc. Just don't try it that way with an M1a or AR-type rifle... bad juju, that.

Not my way; I'd carry a rifle I knew and trusted and control the muzzle... but there's no use arguing hot vs. cold carry; it's a religious issue as far as I can tell! :-)

I don't think one would sell. I don't see a market for it. It's been made pretty clear that you are lucky to get one or two shots off in a charge.

Too much information, man. Come on.......

They make BLR's in big bores. With as much muzzle flip as a big rifle will have, I would *think* that a guy could shoot as fast, if accuracy matters at least, with a lever as with a semi-auto anyway. If shooting fast is the goal here.

BLR's also have a safety that makes it patently obvious to see that they can be safely carried hot, if that a concern (Josh). Mountain climbing, ATV'ing, horseback riding, or other activities capable of literally destroying the rifle excluded. But only a fool would carry hot climbing a cliff or riding a horse anyway, and besides... you aren't talking about that, you are worried about the noise of chambering at the moment of truth, right?

On a practical level, the act of cycling a lever is a good "reset" for my personal targeting computer <g>. I know, from doing, that THIS lug nut can shoot a BLR or Marlin as fast as I can accuratly shoot a heavier-recoiling semi-auto.

Something to consider anyways.

-jeff

This is an example of what can happen to a rifle that saw the same use as the Reminton 750 will.

I have a 50 beowulf, its no 458, but its reliable as all get out and wouldn't bother me one bit to use it to stop a bear. It would be at least as good as a similar bolt gun and appx 45/70 in power....

As to guns firing out of battery, they actually can, there has to be enough slop in them to be reliable and the release will allow them to fire slightly out of battery.

IMHO, if its dangerous game issues, I'd be chambered in really iffy areas/situations, and if I stumbled into one that needed to be resolved instantly, I"d just rack the charging handle, knowing it will attract attenion, but would rather do it that way then slowly chamber... though a slow cahmber and hard rap on the forward assist on an AR will do the job, too much time and still makes racket...

Jeff

There's good reasons double rifles make good DGRs, when you think about it.

Two-shot semi auto!

Gotta carry them "hot", though, it would seem... at least towards the end.

Several years ago HK announced a new auto, the SLR2000 I think, it was chambered in all the usual suspects AND 9.3X62 Mauser. It had a strange looking wooden buttstock with a near verticle pistol grip and a 19" barrel. Decide to buy the first one I saw . . . still waiting, it must have died at birth.

My military training indicated you either carried "Hot" or you got carried "Cold".

Luckily most of us don't have to worry about armed combatants while hunting.

I think a BAR in 458 Win Mag magnaported would be a hot ticket. The semi-auto absorbs some recoil in addition to the magnaporting so the 2nd and 3rd shot (if needed) should be pretty fast. You just have to really really convince yourself it was going to be reliable and never jam. Hard to find a better semi-auto action than a BAR to base one on, in my opinion.

Chuck

Old habits die hard - or - you do. We are discussing DGR calibers here and the critters implied are "armed combatants" in a differant form.

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