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Yes it is one a kind using Enfield, but idea is from the Mausers that were converted to 12ga shotguns. In picture of the 8ga bolt action you can see the ring I put on front of bolt to support large diameter 8ga casehead. It is suported against thrust by the front lugs, and total bolt thrust is supported by rear lugs and have taken the heavy loads ok.. Ed
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Ed, What's your favorite loads for the Dixie .730/730 in 3.5" NEF or Encore? I remember you saying 4227 was a great choice but I cannot remember how much. Also, where can I get some 750gr banded brass solids? Can you still get the .50BMG cases with rims, anywhere? Thanks.
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We have guys working on getting bmg cases with rims added.Hopefully someone will get them out. Greg5278 over on ShotgunWorld slug forum might be able to get banded slugs to you.For Dixie 730gr in 3.5" case top load should be about 95gr 4227. I am just interpolating from the 600 gr I tested in 3.5" plastic using 105gr of 4227.Ed
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Here is picture on left of the 12ga hollowpoint slug with plastic tip. Makes it streamlined, good for 300yds. And still will expand good thin skinned game-deer. I put tip in with glue gun in few seconds, and shaped a point on it with trim knife. Ed
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I also have two other cartridges with my name on them that I am promoting. They are my 700HE and my 585BHE. They both belted straight cases. Montana Rifle company is coming out with their big PH action and some guys will be doing my cases in them. Info on the 585BHE. It will work in any gun that handles 505 Gibbs like Enfield, CZ, Ruger,etc.Mine is in Enfield.Here is picture of of one next to Trex. And mine holds 15gr more powder than that Trex case. 585BHE will do 750 grain from 1800 to 2800 fps in my Enfield. Anyone interested setting up a gun, contact me I will furnish reamer and 15 free cases. Cases are headstamped. When done return reamer to me, for the next guy. I will keep them sharpened. After a few guys have guns we all will get together with others wanting some and get a run of brass made. These cases are all drawn high pressure brass. I'd like guys to ask for reamer when gun is going to be ready to chamber, that way reamers get the most guns done in shortest time.Ed
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would it be to much to ask for the dimensions of the rimmed "ring" used to convert the bmg to a normal 12ga head?
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The interior thread is 5/8 x 24.. The rim is .880" diameter and .057" thick. The diameter ahead of rim is .800" to match the base diameter of bmg case. Thr length of the rim piece is .215" and from front tapers back at 45deg angle to the inside to the thread. The angle fits against the angled front side of bmg extractor groove.Ed
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On Fri May 2 8pm on the Science Channel ,they will have an article about the heavy barrel cannons that shoot the brass cases for bomb disposal.They are the same as our 12GA FH case,when resized in my dies and are shown in this thread a couple months back in picture. It will show them using them for bomb disposal. Ed
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Testing 8GA FH in Enfield, 1050 gr slug in wad cup, 120 gr of 4759, over 2000 fps. Cases extract easy. Hardly any base cup expansion...Ed
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Here is picture of a sectioned 8ga plastic case showing how heavy and strong it is built. The plastic is one piece compressioned formed and the sides of the cases are twice as thick as 12ga cases.You can see the double thickness of the base cup. Ed
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Here is picture of the bolt setup for the 8ga Enfield we did.Also comparison to a Mauser 12ga shotgun bolt conversion, from which I got the concept. Ed
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I was asked how I got 8ga heavy barrel so quick. First it is smoothbore, second a 110 bucks total shipping and all. First I bought a 1.5 inch dia 4130 alloy, heat treated, shaft, 32" long. Then I had a deep hole drilling company drill a .832" hole in it. Came out centered on both ends. Then after it got here I used cylinder hone to polish the inside of the bore. Threaded it, chambered it, and put in the Enfield bolt action. The heat treating it had was just like the barrel stock that barrel guys get. Ed.
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For those wanting to see video of the 12GA FH in the Savage busting big pail of water, one of the kids posted it on Youtube- Titled "Grampa's Cannon". I just found out that it is on there. This was the video that the still pictures posted before, was taken from. They have the sound muted so as not to hurt camera sound system. Ed
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Load of 12 triple ought buckshot in 8ga. They are 70gr each, total 840 gr, and over 2000 fps with 125 gr of 4759. Ed Here is URL for the waterpail busting video above-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUNHszY4ACM
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There are now two videos of 12GA FH on YouTube, exploding big heavy walled pails of water. The "Grampa's Cannon" one with a long view, and "Grandpa's First Shot" a closeup video, the first one, that shows how the top of heavy shelf got bent. Later kids will do videos showing muzzle blast and recoil. Also the 3 ought buckshot from the 8ga load above goes through 2" hardwood ok. I will test 8ga on waterpail also, to see what happens. Ed
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I've got extra 28ga alloy rifled barrel now. So along with first one in Enfield I will be doing one in Mossberg 695 bolt action. Will add a little weight to the stock and one of kids will see how it does on deer this fall.Ed
Oh thanks for posting links.
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Here is pic of Mossberg 695 that will be the second 28GA From Hell.You can see long brass case in the port. They talke about whale hunting above, I think our 8ga, 12GA FH, and my 700HE, beat a trex all to hell. Especially my 700. Ed
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Somebody suggested this picture to show the difference between shotgun powder, factory loads and our loads in plastic and brass as it relates to increased powder capacity. Factory 3rd case with small amount of powder(more wads), 2nd case plastic with larger amount(less wads), 1st, brass case all powder. This allows us more volume of slower powder. Also the Videos, 'Grandpa's Cannon', 'Grandpa's First Shot', are heading up to 3000 views on Youtube. Any of you who could pass info about the videos out over the net, I'd appreciate it. Ed
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Here is closeup pic of Rob's 12GA FH, a Borchardt falling block action. Real nice. In picture is along brass 12ga case with one of Rob's 2000gr bore rider, solid, streamlined slugs. Ed
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