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Here is the new Jeep vehicle. It's about the same size as the H2 hummer but it has a real drive train like the original Hummer and a 5.9 liter Cummins diesel engine. 37" tires and built in GPS, infrared night driving screen, inflate on the fly tires, run flat tires, and a special 4 wheel drive system that applys power to all four wheels or any one wheel with a selector. It also has 4" of on the fly lift for off road applications and fording water. I forget the fording depth but it was something like 38"



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Dang! Makes my old Wrangler look a tad outdated...


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So . . . .

Do I need one year's pay or two year's pay to buy that thing?

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JJ,



A very close friend of ours is the marketing director for Hummer.



I have been to the proving track and seen Hummers do things that only real tricked out 4 wheelers can do.



Don't think I'll spend the money unless I win the lottery, but they have really built an amazing vehicle.



The contol of many varialbles, such as tire pressure for each tire, from the cab is amazing.



H1's really do rule....

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Cheaha, your Jeep is outdated (snicker) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Too bad that thing isn't made by Toyota. It would really be something to own <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Flinch


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I want one . . .

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Hey Flinch!

Pssst..........
Got torque??? (snicker) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Westman, They do have a great ability to navigate as I too have a friend who owns one, The real H1 not the H2. Unfortunately they need to be used in the desert as they are far to big to be driven in the mountains on logging roads. He spends an aweful lot of time in reverse because he cannot turn that beast around anyplace.

The engine is badly underpowered too, and he has had thousands in repairs for stupid little things that have broken. My neighbor has an H2 and my hunting parner has an H2. They are the most luxury 4X4 ever made I think. It's just a chevy suburban with Hummer sheetmetal and some upgraded drive train components. Still nowhere nears as functional off road as the original but at least you can actually use it in the mountains! The H2 has good power but 8-10mpg with todays fuel situation is not for me. Maybe when GM figures out how do build a real diesel they can offer it as an option to make them a bit less expensive to drive?

Two years into the diesel production they have a complete redesign to solve the many problems they are having with the Japanese Aluminum diesel they use now. I had no idea there was such a problem with them, from everything I had been reading the owners love them. I guess the warranty issues are driving the redesign.


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FWIW:

I have heard that the H2 is the WORST (by far) vehicle on the current market for warranty and delivery defects. Jeeps have not been great in that respect but anything would be better than the bad rap the H2 is getting.

I suspect that with all the whizbang crap they put on this rig, the price of this Jeep will make it a Doctor/Lawyer rig too.

I think I need to find an old Land Cruiser 4 door wagon, and build it.

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Exactly why I buy Toyota and nothing else. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> American 4x4's purely suck in my experience. They are fine for soccer moms, but they sure don't hold up when used off road a lot. Well, Badger's truck is alright <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Flinch


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That jeep is a very nice rig. I hope jeep builds it!

I used to have a Cherokee 4.0L and traded it after 140000 miles. Replaced the clutch and that was the only major repair!

Now I have a 2002 Tahoe LT. Less money that a Toyota with more room and power. I will admit that I don't hunt with the tahoe, I have a Bronco for that. The tahoe has 50000 miles and I have owned it since new. I had to replace a door lock (warranty) and that has been it. I am very impressed with its Auto-4WD on horrible Montana roads.

I don't know about the H2 (it shares a lot of components with the tahoe/suburban) but I think GM is making a very good and competitive product.

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Not what I've seen Flinch. I live in the neighborhood of the famous Rubicon Trail. Jeeps rule.
I hunt the hottest, and driest desert in North America. Jeeps rule there too. The only thing that stpopped my little 4 cyl., stock tired Wrangler was when I hung it up on the skid plate. No repairs as of yet. I've had it four years now.
Toys don't work as well. Unequal angle of attack and departure. They are very expensive to maintain. Unlike yours, I've seen lots of them with shot engines at 100,000 miles. E <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Don't know how much the Grand Cherokee and the Wrangler have in common, but due to 2 Grand Cherokees and a Chrystler T&C van, I will NEVER (never say never, right? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) own another Chrystler product. Money pits, every one! My brother had the same van and based on his and a neighbors experiences with the shop, predicted damn near to the mile every single trip to the shop that I had on mine -- kinda makes you wonder...

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Ok, here's a question I don't know the answer to:

Box stock, right off the showroom floor, which vehicle is going to handle a trail like Rubicon the best?

Thoughts?

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MS,

Gotta love those vans, eh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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We just bought a used Cherokee '98 for the wife,my '91 has been the best car I have ever owned.

I like Unimogs for hunting rigs.


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Kinda hafta think it would be the Jeep Rubicon. Beefed up diffs front and rear, and an extra low range transfer case, short wheelbase. Closest to what is needed for rock crawling, but would probably have to take some of the detours around the hard problems.

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Is Rubicon actually a good tet for a hunting vehicle? None have much weight capacity and they don't have to handle snow, freezing weather, or mud. At least not from what I have seen. I doubt you will have much concern over body work on any good rubicon vehicle.

I suggest that Rubicon is a good test for a rock crawler but not much else. one of the original H1 hummers would be a dismal failure and we all know they have great capability. How would you fit one through the rocks on that trail?

It's still hard to beat a Toyota pickup with some additional drive train work for an awsome hunting truck. Small and agile with good capacity to carry gear and game.


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I'm with you JJ on that one. I drive a full size diesel crew cab only because I need to haul horses, etc. It stinks in tight terrain. A short bed Toyota 4x4 (used, you don't want to cry about scratches <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) would be the ticket in my book.

I dream of one when I get back in the crap with my truck <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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