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" Allright wiseguy" a little testy?? ".......did you ever consider the fact that MAYBE just MAYBE " A different way of stating a fact. Mr.Tom264, all I ever asked was for AMRA to post the response to his inquiries so I could learn the opinion of other 'smiths. It seems like my quest for this information has set you off for some reason. Hopefully, you will enjoy the remainder of the holiday.
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They've been posted! what more do you want? no I'm not testy! I'll pose a question for you: What if the other gunsmiths said yes they would do it? what would YOU do in that case?
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That the bolt had a special "Temper" and fluting was introduce heat that would mess this up and render the rifle "UNSAFE". A couple of problems with that. #1 You would need to get the bolt over 600 degrees to affect the tempering. #2 Darn near impossible to get the bolt THAT hot unless your cutting the flutes with a tourch. We have flood coolant on our mills for a reason......................................... Thinkin Karl won't touch it because he'd be limited to the existing pattern, Weatherby WANTS to sell ya a new rifle!
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http://www.twistedbarrel.com/http://www.straightshotgunsmithing.com/I was refering to these two, but I didn't make that fact real clear. Sure, I'll answear your question. If I had the confidance in a 'smith to do any work I asked him to perform, I would hire him to do the work. I don't think there are many ( if any ) 'smiths that can do every aspect of gunsmithing fast enough and with enough experience to make a profit. Most gunsmith these days seem to concentrate in doing a small aspect well. IE: some work on 1911s, some on remingtons, some on mausers, etc. It appears to me that the two gunsmiths I was inquing about above do a lot of fluting. For me, If I wanted a bolt fluted and they told me they had done some prior to mine, then I would consider them. Which is why I asked for the response from them. I keep a list beside the computer of products and services that appear interesting to me. Sometimes, when people like AMRA ask about services, I post links that may help them. It seems like someone posting something you don't agree with, seems to bother you.
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It seems like someone posting something you don't agree with, seems to bother you. Nope! doesnt bother me at all....actually I'm laughing about the whole thing. But really......so your saying the if someone at WBY says NO it cant be done and a well known gunsmith (in this case more than one) also says NO it cant be done and you happen to find a gunsmith that says YES I will do it.........just because you've got it in your head thats what you want you will let this gunsmith do it? Hey man whatever! I guess if you like eating rifle bolts.....have at it.
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Is this one of the gunsmiths that said it can't be done..or was this you ...Karl said it could be done but it would be cost prohibitive.......did you ever consider the fact that MAYBE just MAYBE Karl knows that it would be unsafe and also knows what means it would take to make the bolt safe......like maybe retempering it?
And since I answeared your question, Could you answear the one I asked ealier? Do you believe Weatherby or Karl?
We haven't even hit 150 views yet, must be a slow night. At least we are getting our post counts up.
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I guess if you like eating rifle bolts.....have at it Ya really don't know what your talking about, do you?
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I meant to ask you another question. See if you will answear this one. Are you aware that Karl does not flute Savage bolts? And that some gunsmiths will flute them. Does that make anyone that has a Savage bolt fluted willing to blow the bolt up? If you asked the Savage Factory Custum shop to flute a bolt you returned to them, do you believe they would flute it? I don't think they will.
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It appears that Weatherby states that it is unsafe for anyone to work on the bolt. Do you agree with Weatherby? Yes
It appears that Karl states he can flute the bolt, but prefers not to do so? Do you agree with Karl? Yes
So Weatherby says no, Karl says yes, and you agree with which one? Dont put words in Karls mouth he didnt say yes he would do it.....he said it could be done but he prefers not to.....to me thats a nice way of saying NO.
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I guess if you like eating rifle bolts.....have at it Ya really don't know what your talking about, do you? Seriously?????? You willing to take a "chance"? Not me.
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Tom the only issue that would concern me is compromising the hardness of the bolt lugs. From there rearword the only job of the bolt body is to contain the firing pin spring. The body could be made of plastic (with the bolt head firmly attached) and the firearm would function normally. Remington bolts are 2 piece!!!!!! The bolt body isn't anywhere near as hard as the bolt head. The only reason to have a hardened body on a stainless firearm is to prevent galling which two pieces of stainless of the same hardness rubbing togeather under a load are prone to do. There's enough clearance between a weatherby action and the bolt body to prevent the majority of galling.
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I did contact a place called HTC and Pac-Nor both of them turned me down flat. No reason given other than NO !!!
Jared at the Weatherby Custom Shop told me that Because my bolt is stainless they could not for safety reasons. I asked Karl at Kampfeld Custom if he could do the same to my 2 Mark 5 S/S bolts and he said no I had forgot that I also contacted a guy Lex Weberneck? at Rifles Inc. who specialize in milling and drilling Remington 700`s and Winchester 70`S for super light weight rifles.I asked him could they do what they do to my stainless Weatherby. I got a flat no from him also. Why I ask myself does every gunsmith say NO.
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" Dont put words in Karls mouth. did you ever consider the fact that MAYBE just MAYBE Karl knows that it would be unsafe and also knows what means it would take to make the bolt safe......like maybe retempering it? " and ".....he said it could be done but he prefers not to.....to me thats a nice way of saying NO. "
Now that is funny.
So Weatherby says no, Karl says yes, and you agree with which one? You agree with both without answearing the question from..how many posts ago?
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" Why I ask myself does every gunsmith say NO " If you don't know, just make up some random thoughts. Like you did for Karl. Seems to work for this thread.
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Why do you suppose the other guys said no...........
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I have no facts pertaining to why they answeared no, do you? And I'd rather not suppose.
Could you please ....
So Weatherby says no, Karl says yes, and you agree with which one? You agree with both without answearing the question from..how many posts ago?
answear this one?
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I believe I did answer the question.............its in bright RED
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Any chance you career field is politics?
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IIRC winchester post 64 bolts are two piece also. I wonder if I can get one fluted? Does anyone know?
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