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Interesting, Brown-Whelen correct?


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Kind of. The chamber cut by Pac-Nor has an abrubt shoulder; it ain't no 17 deg., but it has the neck length of the '06/35W. The Brown does have a foreward "blown" shoulder and shorter neck, which will probably get you nothing with that case.

The dies from C-H has the 17deg, but is cut short so the shoulder is never pushed back. My understanding is that most Brown die sets are made the same way, for terrible fear of a tyro..

On that note, the headspace stuff is B.S.. If you have h.s. issues with even the 400 Whelen you should never reload a 45 A.C.P......

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Originally Posted by HawkI
All I got is 270 gr. Hornady 57 grs. IMR 4064 for 2,340 fps for the 375 Imp......Twer me I'd run RL-15 and work up. Works in the 35 W and 400 W without pushing the pressures.


A 400 Whelen a pard has runs 66 grs. RL-15 with a 300 TSX at almost 2,500 fps in a 22" Pac-Nor (2,490) with superb accuracy. I just ran 50 through it Saturday. It will be hunting in three weeks... grin


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It is...wish it were mine, but it is in my safe...and I shoot it lots.

Did I mention pistol bullets, 450-400 bullets, lead softnoses and reasonable recoil? (grins)

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I might have to make the leap all the way up. I'm a fool for things on the '06 case.


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What 'good' bullets are out there in .411 (Yes, to lazy to look)


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300 TSX, 400 Banded Solid, 300 Hornady FP and SP Interlock (good, relatively cheap), Woodleigh Solids, 180 .410 Barnes XPB's....GS Custom if your inclined.


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Beats me. The guy I knew used 350 gr old style Barnes. I reckon there's better.


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That would certainly be enough. Is he necking up 35 Whelen brass or using '06?


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I think we got all the old X's cleaned out.

.410-.411's all shoot fine. Bbl. is .411

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Whelen brass; Its a pretty serious neck-up.

Have about 200 Qual-Cart headstamps, but they all need turned to fit the chamber PITA, but needed if he goes across the pond.

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Has he tried any 400's?


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Yes. The Banded Barnes shot great; P.O.I. is just phugged up. Lots of diff with 100 grs..

He also ran some Woodleigh Solids, again fine. The A-Square softs were not so hot... The 300 TSX and X's all touch off a bench, the Hornadys not too far behind.

TB used to make a 335 and Barnes a 350 X.

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Think Northfork made some and I hear they were bought out and will be up and running again.

He ordered the standard 400 Whelen dies from CH4D? I noticed they list them with about 47 different shoulder angles.


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His was 400 Whelen, no shoulder angles, plain old schmear.

'Twer me I'd have dies cut to match the chamber, just so there are no surprises...

I can say that the Pac-Nor/CH works fine, actually great. Only thing to be aware of is you need a 416 expander. The CH expander is worthless for necking up/resizing; even worse if you don't like weird ass unlevel case mouths. Its a peice of worthless steel (3 Die set)

A 416 expander in a '06 die is the way to go; size/seat bullet and fireform.

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Wheels are spinning, thanks!


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No prob! I've only seen one, but I'll help if I can.

The 375 Whelen appears no slouch, just too much in between the 35 and 400 and I already have an H&H.

I do have a 700 SS that might get the hatchet; Right now I'm thinking smaller/faster for it.

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Never a bad plan, but I have that angle ALL covered.


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Originally Posted by Hammer1

Anyone have recommendations for the 375-06 Improved using 300 grain Nosler Partitions or Swift A-frame bullets ?

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For the standard .375 Whelen, 56 gr. of RL-15 ought to get you a full case (100% capacity) under a 300 gr. NP, for 2375 fps, and still be under max pressure. Ditto, same same for the A-frame.

The .375 Scovill/Hawk maxes at 60.0 gr of RL-15 under the same, for 2470 fps.

Figure the .375 Whelen AI ought to be about in the middle, SWAG 58.0 gr. of RL-15 under the same, for about 2425 fps.

FWIW, a 9.3x62 tops out at 57.0 gr. of RL-15 under a 300 gr. A-frame for 2400 fps.

Last edited by VAnimrod; 10/15/08. Reason: Added the 9.3x62 comparison



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