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So Kerry has been boinking his 22 year old intern.

This explains a few things.

1.) His "youthful" glow as of lately.

2.) The "I would rather be having root canal, than stand next to this Dork" expression on Ms. Hinze's face at the podium in Tennesee the other day.

3.) Why Clark dropped out of the race, even though he had won one primary.



Who has the most to gain by leaking this story?

Its not Bush.

Its not Dean.

It certainly wasn't Clark(the whipping boy)


Good old fat ass H-I-L-L-A-R-Y


How long is the major media gona sit on this one? Nobody wants to be FIRST with this story. EVERYONE will be second though!


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RAM,

I saw that in the Drudgereport.com.

Looks like it is the major reason Dean hasn't bailed out yet.

Haven't the Demo's learned that you just can't go around and tighten up 22 year old honey's that work for you ??

This is way too funny. I bet GW is LHAO on this one !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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BTW,

Here is the link to the story in the Drudgereport.com , enjoy.

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I doubt GWB is laughing.

He's at least got a chance against Kerry. If Hillary runs, he's DOA.

Shortly after her election, there will be one loud flush sound.


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RAM,

No way, Hillary is not electable. YET.

This country is not ready for a woman president, nor is it ready for hillary.

I pray that it never will. (be ready to elect hillary)

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Tony;



I think your underestimating mass Media, N.Y., Kalifornia, Welfare recipients, Mexican Americans, and the Fem-Nazi movement.



Hillary is (most unfortunately) quite electable.



This entire election is scripted, and controlled and she's pulling the strings.



I hope I'm wrong, but I fear I'm right.


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RAM,

No flame intended, but I hope you're wrong to !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

You know, I was really wondering why Dean hasn't dropped out after getting his head handed to him in the primaries. Knew there was something more to it.

You really think that Hillary is going to swoop in at the last minute during the Demo convention and "save the day".

Wouldn't that be some schit......they break the story on the eave of the Demo Convention, after Kerry has it apparently all wrapped up, then all the delegates vote for Hillary !!! WTF !!!

The Republican party is going to have a field day with this.

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I think your underestimating mass Media, N.Y., Kalifornia, Welfare recipients, Mexican Americans, and the Fem-Nazi movement.

Hillary is (most unfortunately) quite electable.



I agree but I don't think this is the year Hilary will run. She is biding her time till the next election and I believe will be a formidable opponent for whomever the Republicans decide to run behind Bush. She will have all those you mentiond and lots of others crazies in a frenzy to see her elected. As much as it sickens me I think it is a VERY real possibility Bubba could be first lady..errr man or whatever <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> 163bc

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RAM, I think you're letting your regional location color your estimate of her chances. It looks a little different out here on the left coast and I know that it looks a lot different in the MW and S.

Kerry has other issues too. He seems to be shying away from talking about how he got an early out so he could play at politics. He sure as hell is running away from his anti war activities after he got his early out. I think once a lot of vets get the full story the Veterans for Kerry movement will start to melt like last springs snow. I know I sure as hell could never bring myself to vote for someone who espoused the same views from the same venues as Hanoi Jane even if he stood 100% for what I believe in on everything else.


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It not MY regionality I'm concerned about. Electoral votes from N.H. are irrelevent.(much like most of the South and Mid West)

Nationally though, polls by Zogby, and he's about as good as they get, showed Hilary trumping EVERY democrat candidate IF she ran. Zogby polls also showed (up till today anyways) that Kerry beat Bush.

If Kerry beats Bush, and Hillary trumps all Dem's, then, ergo, Hillary beats Bush.

But I really don't think she's running NOW, Now she just wants to keep a Democrat OUT of the White House, that way she'll have an open ticket to run on in 2008.


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Actually RAM I don't think your logic holds when you say that Kerry beats Bush, Hillary trumps Kerry, therefore Hillary beats Bush. Don't forget that Hillary is easily the most polarizing figure in American politics. If she runs we might see an election with the highest voter turnout ever. The Republican base would be hyper motivated. Hillary only trumps Kerry among Democrats. Polls at this point when only one party is campaigning, are incredibly skewed to that party. I'm confident Kerry's record and demeanor will be made huge issues and will have an effect in the general election. The polls don't really start to become reliable until at least two weeks after the last of the two party conventions.

While I am no fan of "W" because of his spending, etc, I would gladly vote for him over Hillary. Absent Hillary, I will only vote for Bush with my nose severely plugged.

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Got to agree with you about hillary. Also think Bush shot himself in the foot when he signed the campaign finance reform bill and bet on the Supremes to declare it unconstitutional. He won't get a lot of the help that he got the last time around because the organizations that helped him then have been pretty effectively muzzled this time around. I can really tell that I'm getting old 'cause lately I've been wishing that Barry Goldwater could run again. I think he'd do better this time around. You gotta like a guy whose stated purpose in runnng was to decrease the size and scope of government, and remember, this was in the early '60s. You also gotta like a guy who says that before proposing any new legislation you need to look at not whether or not its needed but whether or not its constitutional.


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I am getting old as well, I would like a Barry Goldwater/Everett McKinly Dirkson ticket!


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Mauser;
Not my polls, take it up w/ Zogby, I just applied the transitive property to his data.


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hey ram

wait till hillary gets the dem nomination.

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I've got to agree about the "hanoi jane" thing. I will vote for GWB or any other Republican in the foreseeable future. miles


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. Also think Bush shot himself in the foot when he signed the campaign finance reform bill and bet on the Supremes to declare it unconstitutional.


And he shot himself in the foot again with the [un] Patriot Act.

And he shot himself in the foot again with Government spending at its highest in history. Even more than FDR when compared in equally valued dollars.

And he shot himself in the foot with the Growth of Government at an ALL TIME HIGH, again even higher than FDR!

And he shot himself again by legalizing, illegals.

And he shot himself again....... ooops no more toes on that foot.


Change to other foot!


And he shot himself again by his administration leaking he'ld re-sign the AWB/HCM ban.

And he shot himself again by agreeing to allow Russert to disembowel him on national TV.

And he shot himself again (intentionally or not) with the "reasons behind the war"


And he shot himself in the foot by remaining silent, yet still sending our Ca$h!, as Mexicans (or should we say, soon to be Americans) greeted our athletes with chants of "Osama, Osama,Osama"

GWB doesn't have 6 toes on each foot does he? he appears to be running out of toes! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Good thing Hillary is helping him out by trying to submarine Kerry. Even "W" can't miss that "Texas sized ass" when he'll have to kiss it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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There is no way a Republican Party wins in this country leaning on the far right. It isnt going to happen, period. For the Republican party to remain a viable option for the majority of Americans it has to become a moderate party. That does not mean we have to have the largest Federal payroll of fed employees. I am against the far right, just as much as I am against the radical far left in the democratic party. Frankly, as a veteran, it will be a cold day in hell before I ever vote for a democratic president again. But, there is one key issue why jobs are leaving this country, the large corporations have been streamlining and downsizing since the late 80's early 90's and frankly they are shipping alot of jobs overseas. That is to compete and deal with the competitive world market. That issue alone must be solved or things wont get any better. As for Bush, he gets my vote in a heartbeat from here in California. As for anyone who cant spell it, get a life.

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......I am against the far right,........


Could you define the term "Far Right" please?


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This was printed in the Tampa paper


Subject: America



Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????
Think about it . . .

All I have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? I celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.

This says it all!


This is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.


We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our nat ional motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.


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