Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire "Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?" A MUST READ!

This guy ("a pro-gun control/anti-National Rifle Association, highly critical of free-market capitalism" Democrat (Wikipedia)) nailed it DEAD-ON! This is EXACTLY how I feel about journalism in this country today! Give him a Pulitzer for honesty!!!!!!

http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html

Rick,

The site you gave did not load on my computer.
But you certainly have my interest. I'd like to read it.

Steve

Try this link:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-05-1.html

Apparently, Rush discussed this article today as well.

Even before I knew this guy's political affiliations, I thought this was the best, most to-the-point, accurate encapsulation of the state of the MSM today, that I've ever read.

The fact that this guy is diametrically opposed to most of us politically does 2 things, at least:

1] It obviously adds credence to the arguments made (arguments against personal interests carry more weight);

but, more importantly,

2] For the first time in a LONG time, it demonstrates the difference between true intellectual discourse and advocacy.

The media has become a lawyer ... skewing the facts in the interests of making a case.

Intellectual discourse takes intellectual honesty and objectivity - the ability and willingness to HONESTLY and LEGITIMATELY consider the arguments made by the opposing side and acknowledge facts, as well as points well made and well taken.

That interplay is sadly too rare anymore, especially in politics.

Freakin' GREAT article!

Rick, what an excellent article ! This journalist, even though a Democrat, nailed it. Doing so he proved that he had principles that many of his colleagues have abandoned...

Thank you.

An article/blog about truth and ethics. From the opposing side. How refreshing!

This election reminds me of the 1933 elections in post Weimar-Republic Germany. The media is committed to the notion if you repeat a lie often enough, the morons will accept it as fact. And if you keep the truth out of what little news the masses hear, it's a done deal. Only 14% of VOTING Americans have even heard of Pelosi and less than TEN, TEN! know who Ayers is. Here's another interesting facts, democraps are generally less educated, smoke, drink (in excess), do drugs and earn less money than republicans or independents. Makes perfect sense...jorge

Rick,
Got it and thanks.

For those who have not read it, it is a must read. Not even a close call. It will take about 3 minutes.


Steve

Orson Scott Card, good si-fi writer. Excellent article.

Good information but no one on the left will read it. kwg

my wife, a third generation newspaper publisher HATES the main stream media with a passion.......at one of the last conferences i sat through with her, the MNA brought in a speaker, during part of the talk he told why he thought a newspaper needs to endorse a candidate......thought i was going to have to restrain my wife to keep her from castrating him.......my wife says "A newspapers job is to give the public the facts and let them decide, sure in the hell is not my job to endorse someone publicly"....and her philosophy is no politicians on the front page.....she dont care if the president shows up, no exceptions

I've been thinking the same thing....and it could be the last election that matters for a long long time. My guess is the first two things the new Obama/Reid/Pelosi axis would do would be the card check (union strong arm, builds dues and adds party workers) and the "fairness" doctrine (silences critics). Followed rapidly by disarmament of the public, wealth redistribution to create a devoted fan base of welfare recipients loyal to the regime, followed by the outlawing of any criticism of the One as racist hate speech, so that dissent is criminalized. War crimes show trials of the prior administration, military officers and intelligence officers, when they feel their grip is strong enough.

Probably all with the help of some "liaison" officers from newly friendly Arab regimes.

I read the article and was ready to write a 10 page response.. Why bother? I really don't know the membership at the fire and I think most of us tend to be somewhat Conservitive as I am. I think I said it before, we discuss and cuss what is going on in the world, but we are again preaching to the choir. There are Counties that have more people in it than this forum. I know it feels good to vent and rant, but actually to no avail. Nobody hears us.
I know who I will vote for and I suspect it will not help. I just hope the fools in America that vote a Socialist in pay the price for their folly. It is just too bad, we that don't want this will pay also.
I cancelled my local paper last year, I am sure they are hurting because they don't get a buck from me, ya, sure.
"Fair and balanced", another joke and advertising BS.
I get better information here and it is somewhat fair and balanced too. Also free.

Steve at least you are being optimistic.

Well I expect the first order of business will be three new Justices at SCOTUS. Then they can begin. Although some of the so-called Blue-dog democraps will tray and stop some of his more radical inititatives like happened with Roosevelt( you know guys like Webb who I KNOW for a fact HATE Obama and his marxist philosophy but "whore up" and became demcraps just to get elected), but unless there is a HUGE baclash from the public, I see us turning into another weak-titted euro-style country where nobody knows success or failure. Where do we go???jorge

Here is what makes the piece all the more telling. This quote from another story the author has penned.

"I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America's role as a light among nations".

Good (albeit disturbing) read for sure, Rick,

Thanks.

ALL the more telling given the core beliefs of the writer.

That should inspire some optimism, as regards the survival of intelectual honesty and American Journalism.

GTC

The same Rush who said that if McCain was the GOP presidential nominee that he would destroy the Republican party,.. yet is now giving McCain raving support on his radio program every day?

Yeah,... ole' Rush is just the guy you want to listen to about journalistic credibility.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011508/content/01125107.guest.html


RUSH: Mark in Standish, Michigan, I really appreciate your holding on. Welcome to the program.

CALLER: Hello, Rush.

RUSH: Hi.

CALLER: Sorry to deviate from your monologue for just a minute, but you had a woman call yesterday that just frosted me to no end that if either Huckabee or McCain won the nomination she was going to sit the election out.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: People like her, I coined a term, a call them TV Republicans, and it doesn't stand for television, it stands for tunnel vision, because they need to take the blinders off and see the bigger picture. If they sit out the general election, the Democrat wins it by default, whichever one of the Three Stooges wins it. Guess what? In the next four years, there's going to be probably one, maybe two Supreme Court vacancies come up. Do they really want one of the three bozos over there appointing the next two Supreme Court justices? Is Clinton gonna appoint another Ginsburg, or is she going to do another Scalia? Is Obama going to appoint another Justice Thomas or is he going to do somebody like Breyer or Stevens? Do they really want a liberal appointing the next two Supreme Court justices? They need to take the blinders off, Rush. They need to look at the bigger vision and quit being Tunnel Vision Republicans.

RUSH: I understand what you're saying. I hate to tell you this, but she's not alone. I'm here to tell you, if either of these two guys get the nomination, it's going to destroy the Republican Party, it's going to change it forever, be the end of it. A lot of people aren't going to vote. You watch.

Rush is besides the point. In fact, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. I just mentioned that he'd brought it up because he was on one of the pages linked, and I thought it was a good thing that the article had been disseminated that widely today.

I'm listening to what Orson Scott Card says about journalistic integrity, and I'm agreeing quite strongly. Read the article.

Honest intellectual discourse requires more than just flaming arrows and clever machinations. It's actually refreshing to see someone on the other side who seems to retain the ablity to call them as he sees them, party affiliation be damned.

rb