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Lead causing CWD?


There may be a potential conspiracy to do Lead Contamination because the root cause of CWD in deer and elk is lead???!

Remember this DNR video: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/index.htm

High concentrations of both lead in the environment and high presence of CWD may be related. Leadville, Colorado for instance...there are others...Ex: Where there is CWD in some areas here?

Just some comments from the folks that I spoke to...they may not want to scare the public and are doing the lead testing, but it's really a conspiracy re: CWD!?

Even Wyoming Game and Fish:

Hmmmm...there probably may be a potential reason to BAN lead bullets....

I am skeptical.....if bullet fragments cause CWD,how does it get on game ranches that have no hunting at all?

Lots of ranches may have lead contamination through various activities, Water irrigation, farming fertilizers, water lead pipes, past mining, hunting, shooting, gun clubs, active shooting of animals, etc..

Lots of ranches may have lead contamination problems:














That may be a tip of the iceberg?

Bullcrap. In the 19th century more than 50 million bison were killed by lead bullets. Add to that all the other game killed by lead bullets in the west and then figure out why every one and everything doesn't have CWD already. How much disease of that nature showed up in the East due to the 1oo's of millions of lead bullets fired during the Civil War?? This is a crock someone is selling. Bullets are NOT the cause. Mining and smelting operations pump heavy metals of all descriptions into the environment in a far more dangerous form and you actually believe that lead bullets cause problems?????

You MUST remember that Lead and other Heavy Metals are cummulative in the soil.

Maybe, just maybe we've done too much harm:



FYI- There are currently 1813 commercial outdoor firing ranges registered with the National Shooting Sports Foundation and you tell me that the NSSF is not biased??! Come on.

Here is what the DNR has said:



The Weekly Wisconsin DNR news even sais something of interest:


Why CWD units? hmmmm...all this potential evidence makes you wonder?!hmmm...

Yeah, and here in the Adirondacks, lakes and ponds that have NEVER had hman habitation or any inflow from rivers had fish with mercury levels just as high or even higher than lakes and ponds that were near habitation. This sounds a lot like the "global warming" that we are allegedly causing. Oh, and the next time someone fires up their hybrid do a bit of backtracking and see how much more pollution is caused by the beginning to end of the making of their batteries. It is intentionally hyped crap and some folks are just going to be scared enough to believe it. There always are.

Don't ya wish stuff fell up?

Lead water pipes? In America? WHERE? Have you ever seen lead water pipes? Outside of pictures from ancient Roman. Of course they have never found lead contamination in the teeth from the ancient Romans that drank from the lead pipe source. The proof lies in the fact that all these ancient Romans are dead.

Lead bullets, CWD and other propaganda,
IMHO folks that buy into this are the same folks that would buy a pet rock or a sham wow.

I say BS, too. It's not the bullets.

Remember that this dude is on the Peregrine Fund Board of Directors. The only way his "testing" would be more suspect is if he were on the the boards of PETA and HSUS.

Bunch of crap. People have far greater exposure to lead than any other mammal on the planet and the human equivalent of CWD is quite rare. On the order of one per million.

More junk science.They want to ban the lead bullets,so they create another "crisis".I do not believe a single word that comes out of the mouths of ANY government agency these days;they are ALL suspect.

It is a funny, wild theory, I give you that.

However, it doesn't hold any water. Texas probably has as much or more lead contamination as anywhere, and we have yet to have a case of CWD. And in case you think that is because we are not testing, that is not so. As a veterinarian, I personally send in samples on 5 different whitetail breeders and the captive whitetail breeders around the state are reportedly doing the same thing. No cases to date.

It is also funny that they can pretty much trace the spread back to the Ft Collins area in the 60's. Most people that use science, think that it was a mutation from sheep Scrapie when they housed infected sheep and mule deer together.

They have also proven that it is contagious from animal to animal.

If you have any SCIENCE to refut this, please let us know, otherwise stop trying to spread unfounded lead hysteria.

Science ignored by governments and special interests. The so-called lead connection is more obfuscation perpetrated to protect multinational corporations and academic grant funding.

http://www.markpurdey.com/articles_thewastingland.htm
http://madcow.pamrotella.com/
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/madcow4.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/mark-purdey-424643.html
http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/floodstudy.htm
http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/flood%20paper.pdf
http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/TSE%20Med%20Final.pdf

Perhaps, but many questions remain about the controls used in much of this research. One of the first of which sought to prove transmission by force feeding calves ground up brains and spinal material from infected animals. Hardly a normal transmission mechanism.

...Looks like another politically motivated agenda like the global warming scare. Create an agenda goal, then 'manufacture' phony science to support that agenda's success. I think genetic engineering of our food crops MAY have much more to do with the prion generated diseases. Wait and see..Genetically engineered corn is being used for animal feeds, and wildlife all over our Midwestern regions are being exposed to crop fields of genetically modified crops, while food for human consumption is largely being shielded from direct consumption of these food crops. Eventualy cross pollination will contaminate all our field crops and we'll see more human cases of these prion caused diseases. At least that's my theory, I'm sticking to it, at least for now.

I agree with jackfish and olhippie above.

In fact, jackfish mentioned a link that says this:


So in fact, Copper may prevent CWD, while other compounds (lead??) may accelerate CWD?

From the same link provided by jackfish:


Wow, there may be potential cover-ups larger than anyone imagined in this ?

Or is it that shooting copper bullets may potentially cause CWD??



Wow! What is going on that we don't know?

I've been reading some more, what do you make of this?




Pretty incredible.

PROPAGANDA

Yep