Home Forums Hunting & Shooting General Big Game Definitive Study by Biologists: ACTUAL VIDEO: ACCUBOND vs TSX: Many lead fragments in meat!

Yes, answers are here in this three part video series:

LOTS of LEAD Fragments from Accubonds!!! Proven Lead poisoning in Condors too...500-700 fragments found in some lead bullets!

Accubond vs copper bullets:PART 1

PART 2- Study by hunters!!

PART 3 By a MEDICAL DOCTOR...

They were making a case that Accubonds

Let's ban lead bullets and buy copper for the future of our children and the world!

Watch ALL three videos and then tell me: Some may be saying that Nosler may go bankrupt! Some may have been saying that they are like the tobacco industry with cigarrettes and nicotine?

See this video too:

Skip ahead to 7min. 50 sec and watch...it's sick what lead bullets do to wildlife...

Non-Lead Bullets AZ G&F -Barnes at 7minutes 50+ seconds on this video FREE copper bullet offer in video!

You know, I really shouldnt reply to any post of yours, considering how biased you are. But you know this whole lead fragment thing bothers me. This video on bullet fragmentation from the Minnesota DNR backs up alot of posts ive seen on lead fragmentation. The fact is ive been eating venison all my life. Ive spit shot out at the dinner table on Thanksgiving. And ive lived in a house as a child where lead paint flaked off the banister on a regular basis. According to studies ive read, I should have kicked the bucket from lead poisoning a LONG time ago. Yet I still manage to be in great health.....besides the awfull tick ive developed from reading your posts.

Your reaction is exactly NORMAL. It's what I expected as you go through the DENIAL phase. Watch all the videos, sleep on it, watch them again and you'll agree that the risks for humans AND wildlife is too high. It's so simple to change bullets.

You can't argue after watching all three to 4 short videos.

They have visibly shown proof of significant lead fragmentation in some "name Brand" lead bullets. Not sure about you, but I'm not going to eat that crap. Especially since I hunt so often.

If no-one thinks that non-lead is the future, think agian!

I didnt deny anything brooksrange. You see, I look at the big picture. Hunters have been using lead bullets for how long? Dont answer that, youll be searching for more videos and pictures to post. How many hunters died of lead pisoning that you know?





I believe so too. But not for the reasons you do. Everyones got an agenda these days. "Doing the right thing" is very popular these days. Lets save the world. And make a ton of money while we're at it.

Well, what a buncha CRAP! Lead bullets and your health. Maybe you should ask my Dad, he is 85 health as a can be. The largest part of his meat diet has been lead bullet killed game for decades now. Has ate lead killed game all his life.

Like I said first, " what a load of CRAP!"
Pure grennie/wennie propaganda in the first degree!

pahick, it's not the hunters dying from lead, it's the subtle, potential numerous long-term negative health consequences that the toxic lead particles may have on our bodies or in our children.

And it's only been in the last couple generations that we've been using high-velocity bullets and been shooting more deer (deer/elk etc populations have exploded). In days past, slow-moving projectiles used on Buffalo and such or shot with muzzleloaders have been proven to impart less lead particles in our meat.

Besides, where was Hunters for the Hungry 25 years ago?! We're donating TONS of meat to food shelters in the past dozen years or so..TONS of potentially LEAD infected hamburger, according to the study.

That's something that I can agree with

While it may appear as though I have an agenda, I haven't liked the Accubond performance personally nor do I like that they shed toxic lead particles throughout my meat. So I chooseto use other alternatives.

Now that we've established that, sounds like you'd be willing to eat a load of LEAD? Please don't go ahead and consume a few viles of the lead particles that they've found in the meat...then report back to us in 15 years...

Aside from being selfish, how about the other animals like our Condors and Eagles that eat the gut piles...the studies have found the same lead particle sizes from bullets in there dying birds of prey...at least have some decency with other life than your own...I know that you can find some compassion for them, right?

I carried a lead pellet in my mouth hundreds if not thousands of hours as a child in the early 60's.
I am still here writing this.
Not counting all my other exposer to lead, including probably hundreds of times I washed parts in leaded gas with bare hands at a teen and Young man.

Is that long enough?

The truth is "lets hurt the shooting sports enthusiast/industry anyway we can, lets do it NOW"!

I like lead, it stops X-Rays...

You seem the type to believe everything you read. And thats your right. Like I said, I look at the big picture. We may be shooting higher velocity bullets which MAY fragment more because of that fact. But forget that for a second. Now realize that for how many generations have we been using lead shot to kill turkey, duck, geese, dove, grouse, ......you get the picture? No fragments from the shot, sure. But how many people have eaten shot while consuming their game? I know I have. My grandfather used to joke about swallowing shot as a child. You can only get meat so clean sometimes. Its bound to happen. Look at mechanics in the tire industry. They work with lead weights everyday of their life. Auto body mechanics used to use lead as filler in the old days. Fishermen have made their own lead sinkers for decades. My point is, studies are blown out of proportion sometimes. This is such a case. A little common sense goes a long way. Too bad its used very little these days.

Both of my grandfathers smoked like chimneys for 30+years. One died of throat cancer and the other is still alive in his 90s. Your point proves nothing. You're a SAMPLE OF ONE.

Not to mention the health risk to the birds of prey, and other carnivores...

We can protect our shooting sports by using environmentally friendly alternatives or substitutes for all (humans and animals). This way, we are not knowingly causing harm to our sport each time we pull the trigger.

Every little bit that we do for the environment counts. I drive a fuel efficient vehicle. I minimize my carbon footprint. I choose better alternatives when (and they are) available.

Industry (automotive, charcoal etc., open pit mining, etc.) are destroying the environment, but I have little control on that aside from my vote and my pocketbook. I can choose to buy lead-free bullets. In fact I do, and they even work better than the lead ones...so I'm happy

I have some ocean front property I'd like to sell you in Arizona, and I am wasting my time.

Al Gore thanks you

But, Al Bore (I mean Gore) has been proven wrong. I like lead, it stops X-Rays....

you mean he DIDNT invent the internet?!?!?! next youll tell me theres no santa!

Sorry....

I love TSX bullets and maybe Etips, but that remains to be seen.

But to switch due to some idiotic surveys.... hell no, I'm more inclined to go back to cup and core. F'ing idiots. And yes I saw all the videos. I still shoot lead shot on birds as legal, and so has my family. Nothing wrong yet.

This is about as annoying as bootsfishing shoving things down your throat.

we're being infested by greenies!!!!