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Larry- Was curious about that last post on gunsnet by Guinny_Ire?

First, I call BS on the purchase with only a DL. If he did indeed buy it from a dealer he had to fill out a 4473 and pass a NICS check. Second, again I will state, HE IS NOT BUYING AN AK 47!!!!! Unless he has a class 3 dealers license or has jumped all the hoops for a BATF form 1 he is buying an AKM which is SEMI-AUTO only and is as legal as a Remington Mod 700.



If you really believe this stuff, YOU ARE THE FOOL Sir. Since you won't look at facts and be reasonable I am done with you Sir.

Well, if you do and they miss me. Tell me where to send the cigars and candy! LOL

Mr. Martin...out of curiosity, exactly what do you propose?

All I heard so far was pompous BS, with little basis in reality, and you ignored every valid argument brought forward.

So, what exactly do you want?

Actually, I know quite a few hunter's that support better gun control laws, especially those that require hunter safety courses. But the fact is it's not relevant whether or not someone is a gun owner, hunter only that their a citizen in good standing . It's also not relevant whether or not a person buys from a certain type of dealer, only that the purchase is legal .And this person doesn't need to justify their reasoning to anyone , be it the hunting community or otherwise.



Unless I misunderstood something about our Constitution, we are all granted the freedoms in pursuit of happiness regardless if someone disagrees. That being said earlier someone suggested background checks on cars could be equivalent to those for guns , how about driver's license, driving is a privilege not a right under our Constitution.



As for my comments to the woman on the discussion form, anyone who knows anything about military language knows that discussion "Jar Head" was between myself and what was alleged to be another military veteran. Understanding that the only person/ persons that can openly call a Marine "Jar Head" in public is another Marine or military veteran and this person better had their ducts in line. That being said, anyone including a woman that interferes with this disagreement or argument probably would end up losing their teeth. If not some other veteran showing this person how to properly insert dog tags in someone's mouth using their foot.



Funny, how everyone here cries about their second amendment rights being infringed, but never spent one day in uniform or sacrificed anything in pursuit of protecting freedom of speech. We call that a free ride. LOL





best regards

Larry Martin

Just in case there's any doubt remaining on this issue: you have no right to free speech here, sir. Whatever you say can be deleted or modified by forces beyond your control, should said forces choose to do so, and it's all perfectly legal--and what's more, constitutional.

It's also completely proper. This is a private website, run by private interests for private reasons, and you've paid no money and signed no contract. If your meanderings (or mine) do not serve the purposes of said private interests, it is absolutely legitimate for them to be removed and replaced with something that does.

You know I've been reading along with this thread for a while and now I feel it necessary to respond. Mr. Martin I'm sure you are well intentioned and I understand that you are not for banning any weapons. You have said that you only want further, more intensive background checks. Are you aware that NICS background checks are already required for every purchase from a legal dealer? What more could possibly be done? The law only allows those with clean records to buy any firearm. Should it be illegal for me to sell my firearms to someone simply because I don't have an FFL (non-dealers are not required to do NICS checks on personal sales)? I guess I just don't see your point. And I have served so don't try that crap on me - not that military service makes any difference in the individual right to keep and bear arms. By the way considering the liberal bent to media coverage don't you think that if these so called "assault weapons" were so easily converted to full auto or were so highly effective as such that there would be endless coverage of all of the bloody shootings all over the country?

Still would like to know what Guinney_Ire meant in that last post of gunsnet and why you were banned from that site?

Larry, I would like you to step forward and actually propose something concrete.

All you're saying is "I want better gun control".

Explain, please? What exactly do you want?

Matthias This person is obviousy a troll that knows not of what they type. My guess is still a 15 year old (or younger) with too much time on their hands.

And I don't want to hear the service trash, I paid my dues on that score and have the scars and pension to prove it.

I'se got the feeling you may be right. But, I am trying to pinpoint him down. So Larry: What do you want?

Barak



You're absolutely right, the powers to be here can remove anything and/or anyone without just reason if they think something is not in the best interest of their form. At the same time they the ones that chose to give free admission for whatever reasons. However this form is no different than someone book and anyone can write a review native or otherwise. For example, the web site below claims to be about hunting and shooting, but in my opinion is about a joke.



Dry Firing

http://forums.about.com/ab-hunting/messages/?msg=3074.1



best regards

Larry Martin

Well....what's your solution? Are you purposely avoiding concrete answers? Hide behind the first amendment.

You and some others here would like to imply I haven't answered your questions, However my position was clear from the beginning, I support and want background checks on assault weapons. Regardless of what some here would have everyone think and unless the laws have change in the last year, anyone with a driver's license invalid or otherwise can purchase new legally from gun dealer an assault weapon (AK-47 & AR -15 ) same-day with no background check in the state of Pennsylvania.



best regards

Larry Martin

Larry,

You are 100% full of S H I T. I am an FFL holder in Pennsylvania. Every firearms purchase conducted by an FFL holder in this state must go through the NICS system. You will be required to fill out a form 4473 and then phone in to get an approval from the NICS system. The phone call is the background check, and there is a spot on the 4473 to record the approval from the NICS phone call. It has been this way since at least 1998. Don't believe me? Go straight to the source:

BATF Policy for PA FFLs

You owe everyone here an apology. You did not know your facts and shot your mouth off. Now you can either be a man and offer a sincere and heartfelt apology to all involved or crawl back under your rock.

Stush, I don't think anyone will get an apology out of ole Larry. He's got this same thread, word for word, over at gunsnet. They were on his ass worse than you guys and he still ducked and dodged around everything. Pretty lame [bleep] coming out of his mouth. What got him was the "Jar-Head" thread. His alligator mouth over-loaded his hummingbird ass and he got banned from that site. Guinny_Ire says he's a college kid. Guess he just stops here in between porn sites.

Boy, you are an idiot Larry. It is a federal offense to purchase a firearm with a false id. Furtermore, all transactions through a dealer must include a background check, unless the individual has a state issued carry permit or FFL. BTW a**wipe, don't give me that miltary crap. I've been in the military for 16+ years and am posting this from Afghanistan.

Mr Martin,

The background checks will do absolutely nothing to keep firearms outta the BG's hands. Hell, someone with bad intentions and a clean record could pass a background check and legally purchase a firearm. The only way to prevent this would be to include an exhaustive psych eval. Not gonna happen though.

I am completely against taking away or infringing upon our right to own and bear firearms. I'm an LEO and I have been shot at! Didn't like it one bit. The kicker is, the gun (.38 S&W) was purchased legally a couple of days prior to her - yes her - using it on me. She didn't spend one friggin second in jail because she was off her meds. The background check missed her mental health status because she simply lied when she filled out the application.

Everday I go to work, I face the unknown: shotguns, rifles, handguns, blah blah blah. You'd would think I'd be for gun control, but I feel just the opposite. The responsibility of personal protection belongs with the individual, not the cops. Cops cannot feasibly protect the citizenry from all of societies ills.

I'm going off on a rant. Bottomline is, more background checks and laws on the books won't make a damn bit of difference. BG's will always find a way to get their guns. More restrictions only hurt the law abiders.

T LEE, I haven't seen your blood pressure get this high in a while. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Mac


Luceo Non Uro

With regards to a "free ride"

As I recall, that fine document Thomas Jefferson penned a couple centuries ago stated something about the pursuit of life, liberty, and happines being inalienable rights to all men and the Constitution protects those rights.

I didn't realize a person had to serve in the military before they could offer an opinion. For those of you that have, dont take this as disrespect on my part. On the contrary, I deeply respect and appreciate those who have.

Mac

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