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Sorry friends...in court for a bit!
The question truly is....if our FF's were around today, with pen in hands, would that wonderful document be vastly different?
Be honest! It's a nice cerebral exercise! In light of the present situation in the US, I am wondering if your founding fathers might not want to tighten up & clarify the language regarding a presidential candidate to be "natural born"... Just sayin'... John
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Sorry friends...in court for a bit!
The question truly is....if our FF's were around today, with pen in hands, would that wonderful document be vastly different?
Be honest! It's a nice cerebral exercise! I actually thought about your question for the last hour and I really can't come up with an answer(remember, I'm cerebrally challenged). I do firmly believe they would be disgusted at what our country has become. Central banks, Federal Income taxes, less state rights, more government,....they'd probably shoot themselves in the head after seeing how far we've regressed.
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I just wonder how small the bikinis will be in 200 years.
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I just wonder how small the bikinis will be in 200 years. We'd be just as shocked as the FF's today......no telling what transmetrocybergendersex will be hanging out in 200 years.
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From what I've read about Ben Franklin, I think he would wholeheartedly approve.
If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks..., will deprive the People of all their Property,...Thomas Jefferson
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If we had what it takes to let the natural law of "Survival of the Fittest" work we would not be discussing this problem because all the non-productive people would be dead.
Unfortunately, we don't have the guts to let non-productive people die in the streets.
The FFs had no problem in that regard.
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Feed the homeless to the hungry.
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Sorry...had to play lawyer again...without pay...SOAB!
It is my belief the FF's would agree more with me today than those who profess to think they know what the FF's intended!
The FF's would have levelled half the world with nukes had they had the capability!
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And, would Allah actually be a talking point with the big boys?
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I would be willing to bet that the FF wouldn't spend one dime to rebuild anything outside of the USA that they destroyed.
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. - Mark Twain.
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Fair enough. But would they destroy it?
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I think that Jefferson proved that with the Barbary Pirates.
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Agreed. So why the puzzies?
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The FF's knew exactly what they were doing and who they real enemy of the people would be.....
He!! they had first hand experience.
Problem is, the next several generations of the USA didn't listen to what they said.
Now we pay.......
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It is my belief the FF's would agree more with me today than those who profess to think they know what the FF's intended!
The FF's would have levelled half the world with nukes had they had the capability!
If the FF's were alive today and governing, we wouldn't have to level anyone because there would be little to no animosity towards the US. The FF's were smart enough to keep from aiding France even though they saved our backsides, so they surely would have kept our nose out of the ME. That non interventionist policy of theirs served us well and would probably serve us just as well today.
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The FF's were smart enough to keep from aiding France even though they saved our backsides, so they surely would have kept our nose out of the ME Do Marines, Barbary Coast and Thomas Jefferson ring any bells?  Opps....guess not. I see it was discussed above. Carry on. 
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We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Hmmm...The FF education was backed in the real history of the world and how former and present people governed themselves...That education shaped their thinking to form the conclusions they arrived at. I don't think they would write it much differently as the abuses of power now compared to then are just wearing different clothes...The basic premises would still be intact...
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Feed the homeless to the hungry.
George That's one answer. Or you tie them to a tree slap some bacon grease on them and let the bears have them. I suppose that would be cruel though.
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Basic boat building / navigation courses,....and a Map of the Pacific would be a mite more compassionate than grease and trees.
........Asia's out there,....somewhere.
Go.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the FF's would have leveled Saudi right after 9/11, no questions asked and regardless of the consequences to the oil supply. They then would've taken the dammed oil and given it to the American people until every jot and tittle that the A-rabs owed us for making us kill their people and level their hovels was paid. Then a little for interest. Sad would've been moldering in his grave already from Gulf War I with Iraq irrigated and growing corn among newly-built Wal Mart's and newly made lakes. It would be a vacation-destination rather than a desert hellhole. Iran would be too frickin' scared to do anything and probably would be welcoming Christians instead of persecuting them. The FF's would think nothing of nuking the whole dammed affair if the Russians or Chinese meddled.
Just think what it would be like if Jeff Davis was our President...
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