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What kind of case capacities and performance differences are there between these two cartridges?
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To back down the scale even more, if you're loading 100 grain bullets for a bolt action 250 Savage you can get 80% of the speed of the bee for 50% of the powder.
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And the 25/20 is more efficient still!!
Sheesh.... If one is going to carry a 30/06 lenght action, I would not see any benefit of the 25/06, AI or otherwise VS a 257WBY especially since we can get terrific brass without fireforming and the 25/06 is not going to get us to the speeds a 257WBY will achieve. A mere 15-20 grains of powder per round loaded is not going to make that much difference in cost to reload or recoil in my view.
Kenaiking is right that a 25/06AI might get sorta close, but I am pushing moly'ed 100gr TSX's at 3800 and I dont think 50 or so grains of powder is ever going to even sniff these kinds of speeds. My .02 since it was asked of us.
BTW, I am on my 3rd 25ROYwill probably not be without one again so long as I can get out and hunt deer sized stuff.
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About 400 feet per second....
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With sane and similar pressures and barrel lengths about 150 fps day in and day out.
25/06 AI with 26" = 3450
257 Wby with 26"= 3600
Anyone running either mucho more than that is running a tish bit in the red...grin
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You're right....I was thinking 257AI...Sorry...
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Aint no bigga casa grande to me...grin
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It's amazing to me that you can get that big of a boom and the performance out of a 257Roy with the mild recoil....Not as deep of a voice as a 340Wby but just as loud...And you don't mind shooting it...
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Heck I don't even mind the .340, as long as you're the one shooting it...grin
Seriously though, I've used a .340 quite a bit and have not found it to be all that caustic. But then again it's amazing what we can get used to.
It's a heck of a yote rig, you should make one up for those big old Texas yotes.
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The 340 is hell on armadillos...
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With sane and similar pressures and barrel lengths about 150 fps day in and day out.
25/06 AI with 26" = 3450
257 Wby with 26"= 3600
Anyone running either mucho more than that is running a tish bit in the red...grin Dober I have seen loads hitting 3700 often enough with a 26 inch barrel, my 27.5 inch barrel and Moly'ed bullets gets me to 3800 with safety margin to spare. I hit 4,000fps with trial loads but those WERE too hot, by quite a bit... Interestingly loads that hit 3900 did not show any of the mormal 'signs' of high pressure but I backed down to 3800 as I am reading more and more of how the old signs we used to count on being unreliable barometers. Figured 3800 was plenty fast enough and the cases last a long time at this speed. The deer think it is an awful load.
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