Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns How come so many LE Agencies have switched from the 9mm?

what was that law/medical school?


where's that picture?

where did you shoot with Cooper in the "early 70s".....GunSite didn't exist then...just bump into to him in the hood?

when you answer one or two, you might have standing to ask real people questions. you realize you're a joke, right?

I thought I remembered seeing a 60 Minutes on Gunsight in the late 1970s.

started in 1976

I first met Jeff Cooper at a national practical pistol competition in 1973.

Steve, why can't you answer your own questions?
You must not be a litigation attorney.

been one for almost thirty years, and I'm still waiting on you, liarboy.


where was the national practical pistol competion held that year when you met your pal Jeff?

And where was that held?

As I often have to tell lying witnesses, I'll ask the questions, Liarboy24.

You are the one making the outrageous and ridiculous claims that have made you a laughingstock.....you are the one being cross-examined on your lies. Your attempt to change the subject by coming up with silly questions of your own is just more transparent evasion of examination of your lies.

There are plenty of people on this forum who know me and my background, either by personal meeting, phone calls, or "real world" emails. I don't have to prove who or what I am.

You on the other hand are a completely manufactured bag of BS, who makes up a new bizarro resume item to support each new argument. It is both funny and pathetic.

lee24, i'll try again:

he's looking it up so he can figure out what famous high power shooters he hangs out with

When I asked you to answer your own questions, Steve_NO_answer, I knew you would crawfish out.

How about just getting back to the thread topic, and tell us what you can contribute about the 9mms for personal defense, based on your personal experience. (I already know the answer to that, too.)

the thread topic has become the lies of Liar24....that's why it is such a looooong thread

How about posting that picture of your Model 70? or for that matter any of the other bullshit you claim. But I'll be fair, how about posting your {sic} real life personal experiences with the 9mm? jorge

I already posted them, long ago.

Those without experience got their panties in a wad, as usual.

How about post your experience on this thread topic, jorge.

Sorry Liar24, but I don't think this bag even comes close to the Bullshit you've posted on this thread alone much less cover all the other 5600 + lies you told here since you've come on here.

You have established yourself as the King of all Liars. Why don't you just climb right back up that rectial hole that you climbed out of as nothing you have to say here has any merit or standing here.

See, the guy is completely delusional....he thinks he can just say anything.....

no, douchenozzle, you haven't posted them and no amount of lying by you will ever make anybody forget that. That's why you're a joke....people use you as a punchline or a synonym for liar on threads all over the forum.

I guess that proves you didn't bother to read this thread, and my comment at the top, before shooting off your mouth.

Where I come from, law students learn not to do that the first week of freshman class.

Since you're here, what is YOUR direct experience with the 9x19mm handgun for self defense, and as a law enforcement duty sidearm?

I noticed your panties are in wad, and that usually means...

same as yours, Liar, zero...I've never shot anybody with a 9mm.


where's that model 70? Oh, you posted it to your imaginary friends, right?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....I really can't figure out if you're really this crazy, or you are the creation of a real trollmaster.

As weapons Officer on two aircraft carriers, Nimitz and JFK to include "owning" the last Marine Detachment (97 Nimitz Cruise), SEAL and UDT on both ships, I can tell you the 9mm (with Hardball) was not well liked. The SEAL Teams used H&K 45s BTW if I remember correctly but they all hated the 9mm and the Beretta. The M9 with it's aluminum frame just didn't hold up like the 1911s did. Quite a bit of those gents had actually popped a few bad guys and found the 9 to be ineffective. I'm sure with HP ammo the 9 is quite sufficient, but not on the same level as a 45, 40 or 357 SIG.

Liar24, the name fits you perfectly. I've been on you since the Model 70 BS started and to date you've NEVER posted a picture of your 70. I caught you in another LIE about your father and combat missions, not to mention the literally dozens of times people have caught you here. So tell me here and now, what ARE your personal experiences with the 9mm pistol? jorge

This thread topic is LE, not homeowner, or military, but that would be okay.

So your friends' experience coincides with my experience and what I posted. What's your beef?