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shot anything with hair on it latlely (hell with lately anything in the last couple of years?)
maybe best to start a new thread, leave this one open to those that want to pole vault over mouse turds.
my hunting has sucked of late, but am fixing to change that this year, gonna sheep hunt and take a pard from CO moose hunting
so I gotta live thru others exploits.....till hunting season
some of yours will do, if you're of a mind to entertain us with em
"This ain't dress rehearsal....it's the life you get to live, make it a good one."
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I always do good.
Thinking a 308 outshines the 7-08,is akin to drinking bilge water,as opposed to bottled.
Funny how them that shoot the least,yack the most.(grin)
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Dan, In fairness,I don't drink with just anyone,so I gotta toss you aside like ALL the other Flatlanding wannabe's. Though given your local,I reckon you are used to same.
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Funny how them that shoot the least,yack the most.(grin) Well said, after 30 or so posts in one evening... Yeah Brad, I used an RSI pressure trace on the rifles. I don't have it anymore, but it was interesting while I did.
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So, wheres pic of da savage em-em? It do rilly go farrer? grin
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Stick, Concerning the laws of physics, I'll grant you the ballistic advantages of the 7-08, but re: semantics I'll go with "slight edge" to "blowing it out of the water."
That being said, I've never hunted critters that could read ballistics tables, so all the ones I've whacked with the .308 have ignorantly died on me.
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Yum! Yum! Dat lil ol chainsaw'n boy is at it again! When your femur is as long as the average man's humerus, you can build quads like that. I bet big momma, sister, and waterhead hate to share the spotlight and/or dinner table with that narcissistic personality disorder. Tough one to feed I bet.
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Gman, I'm all ears in regards to you more than hinting that you do all of your shooting in the dark. Would love for you to illuminate those details and yes...the pun is intended. To satiate your fickle emotions,it might cheer you up that this morning's FF session was fruitful and new K-Hornets and 223AI hulls abound. Even more,you'll be delighted that my seemingly perpetual Skunk for Winter Steelhead was a bust again this morning and again I'm all ears on how to properly break-in a 1141S GLX,because the weather isn't allowing me to do it on fish. Thoughts? Purty though,ain't it and pink would be my default favorite. Good call on refraining comment in either the 308 or 7-08 camp.
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John,
In fairness,if/when another chambering drops less,drifts less,arrives with more remaining velocity,more remaining energy and does so in conjunction with less mechanical recoil("felt" recoil being subjective),one can muse with uncanny accuracy that the other has been blown away.
Admittedly,I've never killed anything with a 308Win that crawled back out of the freezer either. But a slew of inherent advantages working in conjunction,is not a concession and the 7-08 has that sewn up tidily.
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A routinely missed constant,is that 7-08's are throated with far more viability in conjunction to their magboxes,than are 308's.
Yet another inherent attribute,that bear's fruit.
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'bear,
My apologies for horning you up and making you swoon. If it works that well for you,feel free to print it...I'm accustomed to such fanfare.
Your refrain to mention the chamberings in particular from your firsthand accountings,was also wellfounded.
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In fairness,this is prolly my favorite Savage em-em pic,despite the obvious bias.
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Laffing. I knew you loved them. Kinda threw me, with the other posts. I'm slow, but finally caught on to the taped-eye dialect. Fa-ra-ra-ra-ra.
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I'm pretty much the Joe Palooka of ballistics and can't argue intelligently on the subject. I do like to take a stab at it once in a while. As a hand-loader, I like the quality and generous amount of components available for the .308 Winchester and when I'm being lazy, good factory loadings are aplenty. I won't dispute the attributes of the 7mm-08 that give it the nod over the .308 by some, but the variables in my hunting/shooting world just don't shed light on said attributes. The .308 simply reigns supreme by default and that's okay in Palookaville! Can't find a good enough reason to start over.
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If a fella was serious about shooting past say 500 or 600 yards I could see an arguement. But then at the same time there's a Marine up the road that shoots pretty damn good way out there with a 308 and an '06.
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There's an apt adage,that goes a little something like this: "whatcha don't know,won't hurtcha".
The beauty of the 7-08,is that it is blessed with an amazing myriad of componetry from which to pick/choose and even goes so far as to make use of 308Win brass. Logistics are not even the faintest of a concern,as even powder/primers interchange.(grin) For them inclined,one can even opt a Redding FL bushing sizer(less the decapping stem) and go wayyyyy Mexican Match ala 7-08.
To further frost the cake,much of that componetry(the boolit proper),simply houses inherent advantages over it's 30cal cousin. Simply put,it is the bullet where the rubber meets the road and it is far more important than the headstamp and second only to placement in regards to the terminal affects equation.
In fairness,I'm not immune to the practice of MilSurp Ball Burping ala various 308Win platforms. Some stuff will crowd MOA at the 500yd line and track an M3 cam suprisingly,which can be pressed into good practice.
But when talking absolutes,the 308Win is simply second fiddle. Having a good sized stash of absolutes in one's hip pocket,will not compromise downrange results.
There's an interesting correlation that takes place,when one guns an inherently sound platform,that is actually fun to shoot...the relative "luck" factors rises in non-lineal fashion and that's what it's all about.
One makes his own "luck",though most take great strides to overlook that absolute.
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Rest assured that 7-08 terminal affects do not diminish,as the muzzle gets closer to the victim.(grin) The 280 does the same thing to the '06,again because it is the bullet that matters.
You'll note that trend.
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Never owned anything 'metric'....(grin)
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I'm pretty much the Joe Palooka of ballistics and can't argue intelligently on the subject. I do like to take a stab at it once in a while. As a hand-loader, I like the quality and generous amount of components available for the .308 Winchester and when I'm being lazy, good factory loadings are aplenty. I won't dispute the attributes of the 7mm-08 that give it the nod over the .308 by some, but the variables in my hunting/shooting world just don't shed light on said attributes. The .308 simply reigns supreme by default and that's okay in Palookaville! Can't find a good enough reason to start over. I can always count on some straight talk and good ol "horse sense" from this guy.........Well said.....547.
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