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I was on the Midway site and saw a review of the Double Tap 310 Woodleigh Weldcore load. Double Tap claims a launch speed of 2300 fps with their load. One fellow reviewed this loading and claimed good groups from a Remington 700 CDL which has a 16" twist barrel. Does anyone here have any first hand experience with this bullet and/or load from a 16" twist barrel? If so, please report.

I'm curious too

Some folks seem to think cuzz something works are 100 that it means it's stable at 175.

Not knocking anything but I don't think much past a 100yds would be the intention of using a 310 gr bullet in a whelen. Not for me anyway.

Well ... if past 100 yards isn't your intention ... go right ahead. From a 1:16" twisted Rem700, a group of 5 had 2 starting to tip at 200. At even lower velocity (from a 358Win), tipping was evident at 100yards from a 1:14" twist. No troubles from a 1:12" 350RemMag at any distance.

I havent tried the 310gr FMJ (longer again) from a 1:16".
Cheers...
Con

Honestly, I can't think of a reason to use 300-310 grain bullets in my .35 Whelen. I've never had the faintest problem killing anything I shot at with 250 gr bullets, and they are very accurate in my Remington 700. If I want to shoot 300 gr bullets I use my .375 Ruger... .

Dennis

Dennis,
I tend to agree ... but for the one gun hunter they're options. Honestly though, if dig deep is needed ... use a good 275gr pill in the 35Whelen or a super-premium like a 225gr TSX.
Cheers...
Con

I might consider that bullet for a bison shoot or "ranch shoot". (not really a hunt imo). Be a great bullet for that task.

MtnHtr

That 310 would be a great bullet to choose if one were hunting the great bears or for dark timber hunting of most anything. (The 310 Woodleigh penetrated better- with good expansion- than even the faster 250 XFB did in tests I tried them with in my 358 Win.)

In John Taylor's book African Rifles and Cartriges, he wrote about the 400/350 Rigby which launched a 310 grain bullet at 2150 fps. With a setting of 3" above point of aim at 100 yards it would hit at 8" below point of aim at 200 yards. The Double Tap load claims a launch speed of 2300 fps from a 24" barrel.

A speed of 2250-2300fps is entirely feasible from a 35Whelen. A mate complained of a lack of expansion from the 310gr Woodleigh, but then chronographed to find that his load showed high end 1800's fps. Bet you kicking them out the barrel at 2200fps would solve his problems. The Woodleigh RN's is simply superb at expanding wide whilst retaining weight.
Cheers...
Con

While i dont have any experience with said bullet and cartridge i do own a whelen and have thought about this bullet for really big critters. My whelen has a 1-14" twist rate which i think would be minimum for this long pill but should stabilize to 200-250yds the max range i would shoot anything at that velocity...

In the 35 whelan I have loaded the 310 Woodleigh to 2188fps using 50.5gn of VARGET.

In my 400/350 Rigby Double, I loaded 50gn IMR 4320 for 1988fps, 60gn of H 4831 for 2165fps and 57gn of H4350 for 2210.

JW

Mister Aussie Gun Writer, Do you know the rate of twist in the barrel of your Whelen?

The 310 is shorter than the old 250 XFB - and also the newer 225 TSX I believe, so stability -which is based on length more than weight- should be okay. I have only shot them in my Winnie - which gets only 1900 fps or so- and I've never considered them to be more than 50 yard loads at that speed so I don't know how far they stay stabile.

I'll add this pic for those who may be interested in some of the 35 caliber's line of bullet profiles- though the Woodleighs are absent:



They are, l to r, 200 Rem SP, 200 Hornady SP, 225 GameKing, 225 BT, 225 AB, 225 PT, 250 Interlocks - RN and SP, 250 Hot-Cor, and 280 A-Frame.

I believe it was a 16" but the records are in an older manual of mine which is not at hand. I'll see if I can find it.

JW

I'd bet if you punched that chamber out to the 9.3x62 case and gave it a long throat, you could pick up 300 or more FPS..The 9.3x62 case holds about 8 grs. more powder than the 06/35 Whelen case and the long throat adds a bit more to that, and that 310 gr. bullet should be a hammer of thor...

I use the 320 gr. Woodlieghs in my 9.3x62 at 2400 FPS or a bit more in my long tubed rifle and its a real killer of whatever gets in front of it..

Ray,
Most 35Whelen's (as per CIP and I suspect SAAMI spec) are long throated. The rifle I have plus a mate's Rem700 are similarly very long throated as is.

For what its worth ... the Woodleigh soft 310gr runs at 1.352" and the FMJ runs at 1.443".
Cheers...
Con

Con,
Great, now all you have to do is run a 9.3x62 reamer in it with a 35 cal neck and you will pick up several hundred FPS, and you could do that with a simple hand reamer. but that would probably be a waste of time! A 35 Whelan with 310 gr. Woodleighs is pretty darn deadly.

Ray,
Even 'handier' is my Ruger stainless/synthetic in 350RemMag with 310gr Woodleigh. Lots of 'stomp' in a small package.
Cheers...
Con

Ray,

That's an interesting result you got. I used to have a CZ 9.3x62 with a 24" barrel, and I could never get it to run bullets any faster than my 22" .35 Whelen, at least with all the loads I tried. It was also about a pound and a half heavier than my Whelen. I eventually sold it to someone who viewed it differently than I had come to. I then took the Whelen to Africa, with 250 gr Woodleighs at 2500 fps, and none of the animals killed knew the difference .

I always thought the 9.3x62 ought to be slightly superior ballistically, but I could never get there. Maybe I'll try it again sometime. With a lighter rifle...

Dennis

muledeer,
In theory the 9.3 should be a slight bit faster. In practice, taking the variation in individual rifles ... I think the practical difference is non-existant. The bigger difference is how they're viewed bullet wise ... the Whelen seems to be viewed as a 200-250gr cartridge, the 9.3 as a 286gr + cartridge. Seems odd, but many years ago one of Australia's gunwriters was pushing how good the 9.3 is with a 232gr projectile particularly on our deer species ... but that view is rarely encountered in the bush or on internet forums.
Cheers...
Con

I don't know how the 9.3x62 would do with them, but I shoot 232's and 250's in my 9.3x57, and it really shoots them well. If I ever acquire another 9.3x62 (I kept the dies... .) I will load 232's, 250's and 270's in it more than 286's, because I won't likely shoot really big animals with it. I kept thinking I should be able to get 2600-2650 fps with 250's, but I never could.

As you say...every rifle is a little different from every other one.

Dennis

Tell me the 9.3x57 ain't a sexy machine with a 285gr Lapua Mega

I've liked mine a good while with 250 Woodleighs... .

But I don't have any glittering pictures.

Dennis

Muledeer,

I get 2553 FPS with the 286 gr. Nosler and a big dose of RL-15...
I get 2719 FPS with a 250 gr. BX, RL-15
I get 2406 with the 320 gr. Woodleigh, RL-15

All with 210 Fed. primers, Norma, RWS, brass...26" tube...I am of the impression that the 26 inch tube really works well in the 9.3x62 caliber..A 215 primer just about takes me over the top and I have to cut back a grain or two.

I have chronographed these loads and (I have a long throated BRNO Mod 21) with 10 shot averages, taking out the high and low round, and temps were probably in the high 90s or 100s..

I am squeezing out the last drop of velocity I can when I work up these loads, and they are definatly max, therefore I omitted the number of grains of powder, but brass is lasting about 10 shots and needs trimming between every 3 or 4 loadings..

Not much need for the 320 gr. except for Cape Buffalo or perhaps Bison. Also I know a PH that hasn't had very good luck with the 320 gr. Woodleighs in his carbine 9.3x62 and those African powders..but they work great in my gun with RL-15

My go to town load is the 286 Nosler, its a tad tough, but doesn't ruin a lot of meat on plainsgame and deer, perfect for elk...a great all arounder IMO. I have not killed anythign with the 250 gr. BarnesX but it should work well. The 270 gr. Speer bullet is way to soft for even Rockchucks IMO..

The 9.3x62 is really an amazing caliber IMO...

Your rifle is running 150 to 200 fps faster than mine did, though with two inches more barrel. That wouldn't make all the difference, but the results don't really surprise me that much anyway. At one point I had three .280's, in three different brands. With some loads, the fastest one would fire it 150 fps faster than the slowest one. And they all had 22" barrels. So you will never know what any rifle is going to do until you test it enough.

Dennis

My 35 Whelen is the Rem 700 Classic, 1-16 twist,,,before I started reloading I bought factory ammo,, I wanted a load that would give me the best accuracy...so, I tried rem 200gr and the rem 250gr and the nosler 225gr and the woodleigh 310gr.... I found that in my rifle,, the 310gr was the worst,,,,5 inch group at 100yds...best was the 200gr...that was a 2 inch group...since I started hand loading....I have so far got a 1.25 inch 3 shot group/100yds,,,with the 170gr sierra pistol bullet...I am going to order some of the Speer 180gr rifle pills..I think it is all about the slow twist.

I don't...and I've been shooting my Remington 700 .35 Whelen since 1993. It will shoot 1" groups at 200 yards with 250 gr Hornady RN's, launched at 2550 fps.

You might want to check velocity, among other things. But there is certainly no value to shooting pistol and lightweight bullets in it, at least if you plan to actually hunt with it.

Dennis

Yep, 250gr Partitions are my mainstay in a Remington, 250gr Speers shoot just as well.

Now if I was to build one, it wouldn't have a 1-16" twist.

If you want to shoot 300-plus grain bullets from a Whelen, the 35 isn't the Whelen you want.


Cast ain't sexy either....


The 35 remains a dandy with 250 Parts or the 225 TSX.

As do 250 gr Hornadys and 250 gr Woodleighs. And 250 gr Winchesters, which my friend in Colorado who introduced me to his .35 Whelen in 1992 used almost exclusively. His is a Remington 700 with the dreaded 1-16 twist as well.

Were I ordering a barrel from Pac-Nor I would definitely go tighter, likely 1-14. But after 16 years and a fair amount of shooting stuff with it, I have zero complaints about my 700 and its 1-16 twist.

Dennis

Since this thread has taken a turn away from the origional question about 310gr bullets, I have one about Sierra 225gr. I reload and shoot them thru a Rem 750 .35 Whelen. They shoot very well averaging about 1.5" at 100yds. I have not chonographed them yet but they should be at around 2400-2500fps. Is this bullet at this velocity going to give good performance on game from deer to elk? I don't get too caught up in the complete pass thru vs expending all energy in the animal debate. I just want a bullet that will hold together enough to get the job done.

muledeer , maybe its just my rifle but it seems the faster I push the bullet the better it shoots. Has this been your experience? I have tried the 225 gr accubonds finally, same dismal results as usual 1" group with 59 grs of RE-15. 200gr, 225gr and 250gr are all I have tried to date. All these weights shoot good with the 1 in 16 twist. I had a classic 35 whelen too at one time, it was the same way. Some will not agree with the loads I use and I would not argue the point but my loads did come from Alliant and Nosler. They work too.

Yep. I'm running the 250's at 2500 to 2550 fps, nowadays all running with Re 15. They shoot well, hit well, and kill well. Don't think I can ask for more... .

Dennis

If I was going to build a 35 Whelan and intended to shoot 250 to 310 gr. bullets I would opt for the 1x16..If you want a 9.3x62 your locked in to a 1x16 as that is the standard and all there is out there...That twist has suited me perfectly in both calibers..

I also push the 9.3x62 pretty darn fast and get great accuracy..In fact I have a Brno Mod 21 in 9.3x62 for sale in the classified as we speak, it has a 1x16 Lothar Walthar barrel and it shoots 250 to 320s inside an inch...

My CZ 550 American in 9.3x62 has a 1-14" twist.

-Bob F.

Same here 1-14".

you guys are forgetting about the 280 gr cast bullets, they are recommended for a 1/15 and should work in your 1/16 twist. they work/group extremely well out of my 25", 1/14 twist, 35 whelen ackley. they can be cast semi soft for lower velocities or a bit harder for higher velocities for the bigger stuff. deer/bear out to 200 yards are no problem with it. I have shot targets to 250 with it, but just to much drop at that distance. I would consider, if I ever have the chance, taking it up north for bigger game. just my 2 cents worth jim

Abner,
I'd personally be happier with a 225gr Nosler Partition or 225gr Woodleigh PP and would take any shot offered with confidence on any soft skinned game. The 225gr Sierra will kill like lightening when placed correctly ... but its softer than I like for something the size of elk, especially on a poor angle where some raking depth is required. Broadside ... no problem.
Cheers...
Con

I use the 9.3x62 with a 320 gr. Woodleigh on buffalo in my 26 inch barrel and it really works well...I have been told in the shorter barrels it isn't quite as effective..I get an easy 2400 FPS with RL-15 and thats cooking. Kills the big bulls quite readily.

All I can add is when I was having my 35 whelen ackley built, which was subsequently re-chambered to a 350 Rigby, I e-mailed Woodleigh to see if the 1-14" would stabalize their 310 gr bullet. There response was, we can't say, but they did say that the 1-16" is too slow, and the 1-12" is just right.

I never tested the 310 woodleighs so I dunno if 1-14 was sufficient or not.

If I had a 1-16" twist whelen, I'd load the 225 tsx and never look back.

In a recent email correspondence Mike McNett at DoubleTap he tells me that a 1-14" twist will stabilize their 310 Woodleigh loads. Has anyone tried the 275 gr. A-Squared .358's? It would seem to be a way to get a bit more umph than the 250 gr. loads in a barrel with a slower twist than the 1-14". A 275 gr. bullet was the standard load in the 350 G&H Magnum. The problem is that the A-Squared guys want more than $2 a bullet.

I killed a 5X5 bull elk last Sunday with my 35 Whelen built on a pre-64 Winchester M70 action. I was shooting a 250 gr. Hornady Interlock clocked at 2600 fps. One shot at about 50 yards in the timber and he was down and dead. I found the remains of the bullet (weighing 129 gr.) under the hide on the far side. He was on the move angling toward me and the shot went in the chest just in front of the right shoulder and I found the bullet just behind the left.

Mule Deer,
I have to correct myself, my 9.3x62 barrel is probably a 1x14..Lothar Walther only makes one twist for the 9.3 and I was thinking 1x16 but I think its 1x14..sorry, my bad....

While I'm correcting myself I have to tell you that I quoted you a muzzle velocity of 2700 Plus with a 250 gr. BX when in fact that was a 230 gr. GS Customs bullet. That is a hell and destruction bullet btw..

Age and memory loss ain't all that uncommon...

Actually about $1.20 including shipping, but who's counting. Then again, how many of 'em are you ever going to shoot?
Pete
http://www.grafs.com/product/272249

I would have no problem hunting cape buffalo with a 35 Whelan Imp. with a 1x14 twist that shot those 310 woodleighs at 2300 to 2400 FPS and I would expect it could do that????. I would want a 26 inch tubed light weight rifle..That should be a dandy.

I bounce back and fourth between my .338 and my 9.3x62..I wish one of you guys would buy one or the other!

Or hell maybe I should just sell them both and use my .375 H&H English rifle, now thats starting to make more since.

I think those are "A-frames" not the "A-squared" as previously mentioned. Those 280 A-Frames do look awesome. Someday I'll buy some to try.
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310 Woodleighs in my 700 classic/35Whelen 16" twist gave me the following with some initial loads I cobbled up;
- chrony readings at 10'
50/ReL 15 - 2078fps
51/ReL 15 - 2110fps
52/ReL 15 - 2157, 2170, 2166 fps,

-with a firm Lee factory crimp
- 3.390" COAL with approx .085" jump to lands, WLR
- feeds slick!
- accuracy yet to be tested (may or may not not stabise well - especially past 100yds)

Here is a 35 Whelen cutaway with that bullet seated to the canelure at a COAL of only 3.280"

Whelen B,
In a similar rifle ... it was only at 200 yards that some slight tipping became evident.
Cheers...
Con

I would have thought you could get at least 2300 FPS with the 310 Woodleigh since I get almost 2400 FPS with a 320gr. in my 9.3x62 long tubed gun..Try H414...just a guess, don't know..

I think a 310 35 cal. at 2100 would be pushing your luck for cape buffalo, much like using a 45-70 is...Its easy for some to say it will kill them and it will, but I betcha they have never seen a buffalo at 10 or 15 feet coming their way with his eyes bloodshot and the size of tennis balls. As much as I have used the 9.3x62 and my old 375 H&H and even lighter calibers its probably more of a stunt for the most part, I still prefer the .416 or 404 and a 458 Lott doesn't hurt my feelings.

But like I said if you could kick it up to about 2300 FPS it should work 95% of the time, and you always have a PH to back up the failures I suppose.

I have read articles stating that a bullet being barely stabilized in flight will tumble almost immediately upon impact, have also read that an over stabilized bullet will tumble on impact at very close range. Even if the 310 grainer doesn't keyhole on paper could penetration be a problem?

86thecat,
I don't think so inasmuch as Woodleigh has tested that bullet extensively in all the 35 calibers...

I know my 9.3x62 with the 320 gr. bullets will punch through a buffalo 85% of the time or come to rest on the off side skin..It shoots all bullets from 250 to 320 gr. very accurately..It is a 1x14 twist and I am sure that is what Woodleigh worked with. I have been told that in short barreled guns it will not expand properly but I get conflicting reports on this..in my 26 inch tube it works great, but the 9.3x62 dotes on long tubes.

If you went to a 350 gr. or heavier bullet in the Whelen then your scenario would become a problem at some point..

Those are just a few initial loads I tested and not at max. I'm thinking like you that 2300 is doable. Woodleigh states on the box, "recommended impact velocity of 1800-2200fps". I wonder what might happen if impact was much over that. I make 2420MV in my 350WSM with them.

I must try them someday in my 35Whelen AckImp. It's VZ 24 Mauser 98 with a 24" light sporter barrel of unknown pedigree (twist 14"). Can seat bullets to 3.400. Should be good for those bullets.

Would anyone venture a guess on what kind of velocity could be obtained from a 24" .358 Norma Magnum with the 310 grain bullets...

Bob

A few years back, Geoff at Woodleigh Bulletts sent me two 358 Norma Magnum loads using N202 for 2297 and N204 for 2493 with their 310grRN.

Don't own a rifle in that chambering yet myself. It's a very good one.

Whelen B,

I was wondering if you had the opportunity to punch any paper yet with the 310 Woodleighs in your �700 classic/35Whelen 16" twist�.

My Whelen has a 26�bbl 1-16 twist. When I used to hunt with it alot, I primarily used the Serria 225gr SBT GK @ 2,590fps. The combination accounted for a lot of whitetail�s and the bullet never failed me once.

In the Lyman 47th New Edition, Reloading Handbook pp.326-326 there is info. for the#358009 cast bullet (280grs, #2Alloy). The book lists a few loads with that bullet over 2,100fps. It also state�s that IMR 4198 should give accurate results with that bullet. The barrel length Lyman used to test was 24� and the twist was 1-16� .

Harpy

I always figued a 300 gr. in the 9.3 would be a good all around weight, only Swift makes a 300 gr. as far as I can tell..

I have not shot the 35 Whelan since I started using the 9.3x62 and I was not aware that Nosler made a 250 gr. bullet for it. I knew they made a 225 gr. and its a good bullet..A 250 Nosler should take care of about anything short of an elephant, Rhino or Hippo...

No - accuracy yet to be tested in my 700classic/35 Whelen - just in my 350WSM so far which has a faster 12" twist and which gives good hunting accuracy - http://35cal.com/images/IMG_0141.jpg

I have done 2500fps years ago with my Remmy Whelen and 250 grn Hornady bullet. Now I don't see why one could not get close to or even turn 2300fps with a 300 plus grain bullet. It would be great on elk in the dark timber or anything else like big bears up close.

My 350 Rem mag with 16 twist will stabalize 300 grain Barnes Originals on targets and game. I was getting very close to 2300 fps in a 20" barrel without pushing pressure.

North...what is the LOA of the bullet seated to the canelure in the .350 RM?...do you have to seat deep to keep the LOA under 2.800?

Thanks...Bob

Bob, right hand cutaway cartridge below is the 350RemMag at 2.820" with a 300gr Barnes Original seated. There are no canelures on the Barnes Os I have. That bullet is out of print now. I have a small number of them but never actually loaded and fired one myself in the 350RM. But Con has elsewhere in this thread (bottom page two) reported using 310s with satisfaction from his Ruger77 in 350RM - 12" twist I believe. The 300 Barnes Os and the 310 Woodleighs are the same length.

L to R
35 Whelen - 310Woodleigh 3.280"
350WSM - 310Woodleigh 2.865"
358Win - 310Woodleigh 2.865"
350 Rem Mag - 300 Barnes Original 2.820"

Quite a few years ago I bought 2 boxes of the 300gr Barnes Originals from an outfit that was going out of business. They shot very well in my Rem 7400 (1 in 16" twist)at around 2340 fps.

Also, in my Rem 673 in 350 RM. It too had a 1 in 16" twist. Atkinson is right, H414 is an excellent powder for that bullet, as is RL-15. They are no longer produced by Barnes but I expect the 310 Woodleigh, being the same length, would be similar in performance.

Bob

www.bigbores.ca

Guys you lovers of 35 cal may want to check out www.hawkbullets.com as they make 275gr and 300gr bullets....

Awesome stuff guys!!

I’d be looking at stability programs before I’d try, even before I’d buy a box of bullets. There’s several programs on the internet.

Elevation and temperature, humidity are some variables that could effect stability. Just because one guy says it works well for him doesn’t mean it would for everyone in different environments.

I’ve been shooting 35 caliber bullets since the 60’s but have not shot anything over 250 grain - maybe 275 grain once, but I do not recall accuracy and had no chronograph then.

My biggest 35’s are a Whelen and a couple 350 RM’s. A 358 Norma likely would push a bullet faster.

Any more information here like links to some data?

NOE and Accurate offer 310 cast bullet molds. I have a Accurate. I have 358 Win, 35Whelen and 358 NM firearms.
Twist calculators say 1:16 works fine for the 300g. All mine are 1:14. But that always comes up.

Little is found across the webs and RL15 is the Whelen powder and us about all that is found. (I have 1/4# and no prospects for any more anytime soon)


CW

Aussie Gunwriter
Try adi 2209/H4350 with the 310gn Woodleigh RNSP
I use an 600mm or 2 ft drop tube to load 63gn of the above powder and get 2,455fps at what appears safe pressure in my rifle with a 25 inch barrel 1 in 12 twist.
62 gn of the s a me powder gives me 2,340 fps
These loads are safe in my rifle only.

If you don't use the drop tube you will get 60gn of 2209/H4350 and very compressed. The drop tube allows more powder and minimal powder compression
Bob

Whelen B
I was using the Woodleigh 225gn PPSP in my standard Whelen with a 1 in 12 twist, 25 inches long. The load I used was using Hogdon CFE223 and chronoed velocity was 2,900 fps. This is 200fps over the Woodleigh recommendation. I used it in Namibia to shoot my big burchells zebra stallion. Impact velocity was still around 2,700fps and bullet performance was faultless. It broke the near shoulder destroyed the internals and then broke the offside shoulder. The bullet was found under the skin on the off side and retained 74% of it weight.
If I could upload a photo I would.

Talking to the owner of Woodleigh Geoff McDonald about velocity he said you can push them a bit and they should still work well.
The following are the velocities I get in my standard Whelen using Speer loading data and Sierra data as well as load from a disc
225gn 2,900fps
250gn 2,700fps
275gn 2,60p fps
The above loads are using Hogdon CFE223

The 310gn Woodleigh RNSP is at 2,455 fps with no pressure signs but my working load is 2,340fps. This is using adi 2209/H4350. I plan on using this projectile on a scrub bull hunt next year

All loads were chronoed with a chrony chronograph 4 meters from the muzzle. Rifle is a Stevens 200 rebarreled with a magnum profile 25 inch stainless steel barrel with a 1 in 12 twist. The rifle is stupidly accurate.
When I was in Namibia 3 hunters and 2 PH were given 2 projectiles each. 2x225gn accubonds, 2x 225gn Woodleigh PPSP, 2x250gn hornaday round nose, 2x250gn Hornady spire point Interlock and 2x 250gn speer hot core. The resulting 10 shot group at 100 yards was 1.2 inches nicely centred 3 inches high . My PH wanted to keep my rifle but that wasn't going to happen.
I have had great fun working up loads for the Whelen over the last 4 years and have got to know what it is really capable of when loaded to its full potential SAFELY, NOT HOT RODDED but using reliable load data from speer,Sierra, nosler and load from a disc.
Bob

Wow, old thread, good stuff though, my 14 twist JES rebore 35 Whelen will spin the chit out of the 310gr Woodleighs, i cant think of a beter big bear, timber elk or moose load, cape buffalo in Africa where legal would happily be added as well.

I had one of the very first 700 Classics in 35Whln and damned if I could find a load that stabilized the common 250 grain bullets. At 200 yards they flew like bottle rockets.

LOL. There's a reason this thread was dormant for 11 years--time for a new chambering!

Sure thing…..😂

Anymore info on the 35-06 is appreciated. 👍