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Better than a 41 magnum? I like cruise ships. Maybe they are not the best design for big bears.
All guns should be locked up when not in use!
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Have you ever actually owned and used a 721 or 722 and had all those problems with it, or are you just quoting something you believe to be the case?
Like many others here, I've used a 722 for a long time -- 25+ years -- and have never ever had a single problem with it. My Ruger 77 tang safety rifles also lock the bolt on safety -- and for someone who actually knows how to handle a rifle -- that's not a problem either.
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Have you ever actually owned and used a 721 or 722 and had all those problems with it, or are you just quoting something you believe to be the case?
Dennis Please read my post above where I wrote that I had shot many chucks with a 722 ... My late dad bought me that 722 in .222R. along with a complete reloading set, a Lyman Eze Loader. The rifle had a Lyman 6X Wolverine scope on it in Buehler mounts. That was on my birthday in 1953. With that rifle I shot my first deer in Vermont that fall.
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Yes...but did it suffer all those flaws you are so concerned about?
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I currently have at least 3 721s here, a couple 30-06 and a 300H&H I let DaninAK talk me out of. I also have one getting a 358Norma barrel screwed on... They have actually been used. I am still waiting for the first failure...
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In my view the features that I mentioned are important and matter to me.
For instance if I were handloading some ammo for a 722 and wanted to check the feeding and chambering of the loads in my basement could it be done with the 722 on safe?
No it cannot!
What if a trigger was pulled on a loaded 722 when it was on safe and then the safety was pushed off? Might the rifle fire then?
Its only a trigger safety.
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Those are human behavior flaws, not rifle flaws.
I rest my case.
Dennis
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I currently have at least 3 721s here..........
I am still waiting for the first failure... I prefer designs like I mentioned. Of course a 721 will blast just about anything. Is it the best design for most of us? I say not!
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Compelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could you test function with a 721 on safe? Of course you Could. Would I load ANY rifle with ANY safety to check function inside? Never! It takes but a second to jerk the firing pin out. I have never left any rifle loaded in the safe.
That is going for a visit with Carl Yastrzemski... At the track...
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Good point on taking the firing pin out but someone may not do it. Just loading it is easier. I don't understand your quip about Yaz? "Yaz," is a former American Major League Baseball player. Yastrzemski played his entire 23-year career with the Boston Red Sox, primarily as a left fielder, with part of his later career played at first base and as a designated hitter. Yastrzemski is an 18-time all-star, the possessor of seven Gold Gloves, a member of the 3000 hit club, and the first American League player in that club to also accumulate over 400 home runs. He is second on the all-time list for games played, and third for total at-bats. He is the Red Sox' all-time leader in career RBIs, runs, hits, singles, doubles, total bases, and games played, and is second on the ......."
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To visit Yaz would require a trip to left field, no? Especially as I clarified it with "at the track". Suggesting your points really have merit in a hunting rifle is going into left field...
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Savage_99: I have Hunted with Remington 721's and 722's for several decades now! Not only are they reliable and accurate Rifles they are kind of handsome and simple. I have as yet to experience my first failure OF ANY KIND with any of my 721's, 722's or 725's that I have owned to DATE! You could NOT be more wrong in your ill informed assessment! The first BIG clue to your bogus analysis is that you don't own one! I have one friend that loves to Hunt Deer, Bear and Elk with his 721's, and he owns a bundle of them, mostly in calibers 270, 30/06 and 300 H&H Magnum - he also has never mentioned a failure with any of his Rifles. This fellow also owns 721's and 722's in several other calibers including 222 Remington, 244 Remington (I sold him this Rifle), 280 Remington, 300 Savage, 264 Winchester Magnum, 257 Roberts and 222 Remington Magnum - he has shot many of these later Remingtons but does not Hunt with them nowadays due to their current HIGH VALUES. I have another friend that Hunts with and PREFERS to Hunt with 721's and 722's. In fact he bought each of his 3 sons a 722 in caliber 257 Roberts. Those three sons have now killed enough Big Game with their Rifles to fill a large semi-truck, TWICE! The game they have harvested with their Remingtons in 257 Roberts include Black Bear, Mt. Goat, Elk, Blacktailed Deer, Antelope, Whitetailed Deer, Cougar, Mule Deer and countless Coyotes! Savage_99, point your firearm in a safe direction NO MATTER WHAT you think the safety is supposed to do! You could NOT be further off base with your bogus inferences! Just go to a gunshow and find a Remington 721 or 722 on a table and keep an eye on how much "interest" that arm brings! And the prices they sell for! Sheesh! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Ran across one of these today in a local gunshop with $289 on the price tag. It has had the stock altered, and a gross red rubber buttpad installed. No major rust on it and still has factory open sights on it. Bore looks clean, and rifling looks sharp.
Is it worth the asking price?
Keith I would buy it and quick... Not one on GB right now in that price range. I like that model and you can have it re blued, etc and it would look sweet! I saw a couple pics of one with peeps on it in 30-06 and it looked real cool. Go buy it, put a couple bucks in it maybe a new trigger and enjoy the hunting! CLB
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Ran across one of these today in a local gunshop with $289 on the price tag. It has had the stock altered, and a gross red rubber buttpad installed. No major rust on it and still has factory open sights on it. Bore looks clean, and rifling looks sharp.
Is it worth the asking price?
Keith Be not swayed by the nay-sayers in left field. I currently have seven Remington 722's, and all but one are 3 shot, 1/2" group at 100 yards rifles. I'd be into 721's also if it wasn't for personal recoil issues. But, in 1951, I traded my Rem 722 in 300 Savage I bought in 1949, for a 721 in 30-06. Back then, I shot both of those fine rifles a lot, for everything from wood chucks up to Deer as I could only afford one rifle back then. Never had any problem with those rifles, or the 722's I now have. In fact, last Thursday I was out testing loads for one of the 722/222 Magnums I have. One load, with Berger 50 grain Varmint bullets, shot a .147" group at 100 yards for 3 shots; this with a completely stock factory rifle built 50 years ago. All I did to that rifle was clean it well, and flush out the trigger, resetting its pull weight to 2 1/2 pounds, down from the 5+ pounds when I bought the rifle. I use a 20x scope for all load developing. If you want, I can tell you about groups I shot with each of my 722's in 222 Rem also. Don
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Well, due to budget constraints I am not able to afford this rifle at the current moment in time. If any of my fellow campfire members would like to inquire about the rifle the name of the shop is S&G Shooters supply and the number is 231-755-3863. It's located in Michigan.
Good luck to all....
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The Sako extractor mod is dangerous and should not be undertaken. I'd have like to have had it myself, but I just bought 2 more 700s.
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"The Sako extractor modification is dangerous and should not be undertaken."
Another ill informed, hearsay opinion.
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The Sako extractor mod is dangerous and should not be undertaken. I'd have like to have had it myself, but I just bought 2 more 700s. Complete and utter BS.
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The concept of it being an improvement is at least equally ridiculous...
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Perhaps so, but "dangerous" it's not.
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