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700 Mountain Rifle with a 4x Conquest. For my body & mindset, I don't think there's a sweeter sweet spot than this setup. DOH! Had a 700 Mtn. rifle in 7x57 and sold it to Mule Deer...STILL having sellers remorse over that one...what a shooter! Like many others here, Im shooting an 80s vintage M70 Fwt. in 7x57, Leupy 1.5-5, and it is definitely my " Go To" rifle.... and it kills deer... Ingwe Great pics...now I want a 7x57.
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Nobody hunts with the 7x57. It's just too old, moves bullets too slow, and isn't enough for whitetails, let alone mulies or elk. It might have enough oomph to scare a groundhog, but that's about all I can think it's good for, and it really doesn't have the trajectory to do that effectively either. In fact, those of you who are still using this outdated cartridge should really step-up to a .300 WSM, maybe even a .308 Lazzeroni Warbird. After you buy your new guns that are enough for whitetails, you need to consider at least a .338 Win Mag for elk and put that in your arsenal. The 7x57 just doesn't have it anymore. It used to, but the critters have become immune to its slow, overly long projectiles. After you buy the new rifles, send me the old, worthless 7x57s and I'll make sure that the stocks are used for proper firewood and the steel is recycled.
Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter
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I don't have one, so the 7x57 may be my next build. Bob, What lefty action are you going to use?? Doc I purchased a Left Hand 700 in 270 at the Gun Show a couple of weeks back and will use this action. I have a Lilja # 3 contour SS Barrel 1&9 twist, i purchased off a campfire member and will be using it. I also have a Laminate LH 700 Stock and may use it if i don't decide to order a McMillian or HS Stock. Midway is out of stock on the 7X57 PTG Reamer with removable bushing and will have to order one from PTG .
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Bob; keep us posted on the progress of that project...would love to see pics and live vicariously.... Ingwe
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M77 tang safety Ruger, almost 30 years old and ugly as sin. First load I worked up for it shot well enough to go hunting, and it's all I've used for deer, elk and black bear. I've owned plenty of other rifles in that time period, still do, but it's Old Ugly I reach for when it's time to get serious about hunting...
WW brass 154 gr. Hornady Spire point flatbase. 48 gr. IMR 4350 Federal 210 primer
That's a warmish load, and might be too hot for short-throated barrels.
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I will , got to get the reamer ordered from PTG.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Sporterized 98 Mauser isn't fussy at all about loads. Shoots 130-175 grain bullets with powders as fast as IMR-3031 to slowpoke MR-3100 into groups of slightly less to just over 1". Last elk was taken with said rifle and one shot of 49 grains of IMR-4350/150 Nosler partition. I was using the partitions just because a friend gave me a few but, would have been perfectly happy using 154 Hornadys, which are more accurate in my rifle.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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Like someone else mentioned...it's not my go-to rifle, but sometimes I wish it was (just too many others and not enough tags). My go-to load though is the 145gr Speer worked up with 50.0gr of H4350 Xtrme. My rifle also like 154gr Hornadys with W760, but with the temps here in AZ, that powder kinda scares me.
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Like someone else mentioned...it's not my go-to rifle, but sometimes I wish it was (just too many others and not enough tags). My go-to load though is the 145gr Speer worked up with 50.0gr of H4350 Xtrme. My rifle also like 154gr Hornadys with W760, but with the temps here in AZ, that powder kinda scares me. I've been using W-760 ever since I had my custom 7x57 built up and use it as well in my Wincheser M70 feathrweight. What I did was work up he loads during the hottest part of the summer here in Tucson. I do that with all my load work up BTW. The custom with it's tight chamber won't take what the Featherweight will handle so I have to play with that one a litle bit yet, but the M70 will do a solid 2800 FPS with 140 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips without pressure problems one a 105 degree day. I did reach 2880 FPS but the bolt was starting to get a tad sticky, very slight but noticable. I've done all my load work up that way since I moved down here 30 years ago and it's worked out quite well regarding too much pressure due to the heat. I used it about 6 years ago in area 32 north of Wilcox and dropped a nice Mule Deer with it. Didn't have any problems with it in the 70 degree heat and if velocity was affected, I sure did not notice it. I know the deer didn't. He just died. Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them. MOLON LABE
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Im always on the lookout for a Remington Rolling Block in 7x57MM. Descent shooter, no closet queens.
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I like 175gr RN Federals from the blue box...
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My two sons and I have been hunting with 7x57's for the last 30 years. "Our" load for these rifles is 46.0 to 48.0 grains of H-414, 140 grain Nosler Partitions, and Federal 210 primers. The powder charge varies according to the individual rifle's preference.
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I have had a Ruger MkII in 7x57 for some time and i just purchased another from a board member. It is IMHO the best all around cartridge...period. Light in recoil, flat in trajectory, and heavy in killing power. My favorite load is 52.5 grains of reloader 19. With a 22 inch tube it hits my chrono at an average of 2950 fps with a 140 grain nosler. That same load in a 700 classic with a 24 inch tube goes over 3000fps. That load is heavily compresed but has never shown any pressure signs in any rifle ive fired it and case life has been excelent. It shoots well to boot with an average of about an inch in my ruger and an inch and half in a freinds winchester. I beleive i found the load in an old petersons hunting but could be wrong. As you can imagine, a 7mm projectile with a good bc and sd moving at that speed shoots flat and penetration is excelent. Brass is easy to come buy for the handloader as well. You can always find 7x57 brass but ive also made it with .30-06 and .270 brass by simply ramming it through a full length sizer and trimming the length with a lee guage. Great round for the "purist" in all of us. Its funny when i think about it, but that load was first recomended to me by none less than Jack O Connor...indirectly of course. When i was younger my grandfather had alot of old Outdoor life magazines around and i was always reading them. Jack was a big proponent of the little 7 as he called it, and it just stuck in my mind as the round to have. Funny but i think old Jack would aprove of my walnut stocked 7x57 with a whelen sling. More importantly, this combo has never let me down.
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Your load seems a little warm to me. it is 1 grain over Nosler's # 6 max and 3 1/2 grains over Alliant's max. YMMV
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My 7X57, or 275 Rigby as I call it, is one of my most favorite rifles.
The load I like best is a goodly dose of RL-22 behind either a Nosler 150 grain Partition or Solid Base depending on the game hunted. Either will break 2850 fps from the 22 inch barrel any day of the week.
Larry *********** "Speed is fine but accuracy is final" - Bill Jordan "We do not exaggerate when we state positively that the remodelled Springfield is the best and most suitable "all 'round" rifle".......Seymour Griffin, GRIFFIN & HOWE, Inc.
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I think I know a little myrtle-stocked mauser going on a boat ride in the AM just hoping it gets pointed at a moose by a certain 15-year-old with a hot tag with a start date of yesterday...
Same 7x57 got pointed at a black bear last fall and the bear died... Thinking a moose might have very similar odds.
As to options considered prior to the selection of the 7x57: 243 (several), 6mm, 25-06 (several), 7-08, 30-06 (a half dozen), 308Norma, 300H&H, 300WM (several), 8x57JR, 35WhelenAI, 375AI and more...
The 7x57 will do just fine I am certain... art
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Sd; I hope the 7x57 gets a moose! That would be a thrill! JB shot a moose with his a couple years back, and made me eat a bunch of it. Ive killed all manner of NA and African PG with mine, and am a big fan....it is easily my favorite cartridge..... Ingwe
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I think I know a little myrtle-stocked mauser going on a boat ride in the AM just hoping it gets pointed at a moose by a certain 15-year-old with a hot tag with a start date of yesterday...
Same 7x57 got pointed at a black bear last fall and the bear died... Thinking a moose might have very similar odds.
As to options considered prior to the selection of the 7x57: 243 (several), 6mm, 25-06 (several), 7-08, 30-06 (a half dozen), 308Norma, 300H&H, 300WM (several), 8x57JR, 35WhelenAI, 375AI and more...
The 7x57 will do just fine I am certain... art Have said 15 year old post some pix of Moose, and rifle after said rifle kills Moose...
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Thank you everyone for the load data. Yesterday I bought a used Ruger #1A in 7X57.
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My go to rifle is a Husqvarna fullstock in 7x57 (I have about a half a dozen total Husqvarna's in 7x57). I use the factory Norma 150 gr bullit load. It's a sub-MOA gun with that load for a 3 shot group.
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