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I took El Chupacabra (the fully custom .257 wby)out with her favorite VLD load... Moved the "donut ring" around on the end of the barrel... end of the barrel, half way down, all the way down.. Didnt matter, .75" groups... Take it off... only shot two shots and they were about 2" apart!



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And, to pour salt on the wound the guys who built the gun are out of business. Bottom line is the gun does shoot. Granted, with a crutch but it does.


saints be praised!!! hope they didn't retire to a life of ease with what you paid'em for the rifle...

note; there are good smiths available that can and will make your rifle shoot without that thing....


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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
Why did you shoot that deer at 571 yards. Was that how far it was to the road or don't you know how to stalk?


Nice... Guess you don't know anything about Coues hunting.


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I agree with MtnMan. If the Sims device is making that much of a difference, I'd first try a shim of some sort just back from the forend tip. Maybe a slice of an innertube, if only to provide a touch of pressure and maybe change up the dampening effect. I know a guy who is running a M7 in 260 and swears by his Sims, but I can't warm up to something like that on my rifle.


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Originally Posted by mtnman1
Originally Posted by stillbeeman
Why did you shoot that deer at 571 yards. Was that how far it was to the road or don't you know how to stalk?


Nice... Guess you don't know anything about Coues hunting.


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Many of the actors on TV hunting shows are using them. I'm just not into the idea of something that weird looking on my rifle.

Like others have said you can make most rifles shoot pretty decently just by load and/or bedding experimentation.

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No, I've never shot a Coues deer in my life. But I've shot a lot of mulies in Wy and Co in flat terrain (if that's what you're saying)and never made a shot of even 300 yards. So I guess you did answer my question. smile


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hmmm, not flat, not mulies, not CO or Wy. Your expertise is astounding.


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Originally Posted by StrayDog
Many of the actors on TV hunting shows are using them. I'm just not into the idea of something that weird looking on my rifle.


I'd use one too if I was being sponsored...

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To start with that is a very nice Coues Deer. Congratulations.

I have never felt the need for a donut or viberator! smile I use Lothar Walthar barrels and they all shoot under an inch, all of them and I been using them for several years now..there polishing process really works....

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If that abomination makes it shoot a VLD that much better, then having it re-bedded, properly, by a professional (Who is still in business) should solve the problems that require it's use on a full custom rifle. If you're taking 571 yard shots, get that broken rifle fixed.


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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
No, I've never shot a Coues deer in my life.


Here are some pics of typical rocky, noisy, open coues country of southern AZ. Not exactly flat terrain. Some say that coues have a comfort zone of 400 yards. My shots have averaged 250 yards, ranging from 150-450.

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RedRabbit, Are there deer in those pics you can pick out or are they just shots of the country.

I've been trying to find pics with critters in them to get my blood pumping for this fall.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
RedRabbit, Are there deer in those pics you can pick out or are they just shots of the country.

I've been trying to find pics with critters in them to get my blood pumping for this fall.


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Originally Posted by RedRabbit
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RedRabbit, Are there deer in those pics you can pick out or are they just shots of the country.

I've been trying to find pics with critters in them to get my blood pumping for this fall.


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I see I animal in each picture. What are they?

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You know what, I bet that a thin o-ring around the barrel somewhere inside the forend tip of a floating stock would do the same thing, better.

BTW Mtnman1, congrats on your Coues deer and nice shot! I have always wanted to add one to my North American whitetail subspecies trophy's. Just never have hunted that far south in Arizona.


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smile Thanks, but not mine, belongs to the young man in the pic called firstcoueswas80. I just sorta hate to see a guy that knows nothin' about coues huntin' pissin' on the boots of a man that does, so waded in on his behalf. smile


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I see a critter in each pic. Bottom one looks like a yote, top one a doe or yote?

Pretty country by the way.


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Bluedreaux,
The top pic has 2 coues in it. The second pic has at least 2 coues.

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Originally Posted by RedRabbit
Bluedreaux,
The top pic has 2 coues in it. The second pic has at least 2 coues.


Got these... And thanks. I love pics like this.
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Wonder if anyone has ever killed a Coues Deer with a bow?


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