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As fast or faster than anything I've used. That includes the Post, the Post and Crosshair, the Tapered Crosshair, the standard, old style crosshair, the Medium and Heavy Duplexes, the German 4a, and the Leupold Post & Duplex.
Not nearly as bad for precision shooting as you'd think. Just perch it on top of the pointed, vertical post and shoot. E
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Resurrecting this, as it's all I've found regarding Leupold's German #1. I've found a VX2 1-4, that I'm considering having a #1 installed in, to ride on a custom .357 Max bbl for deer/hogs at <200. Any further insight on the reticle vs HD, #4, and P&D for speed and low light use, would be appreciated. Already have some HDs on other Leupys, and like them just fine. I did find some absurdity from Chuck Hawks about the German #1, that gave me a chuckle: German #1 - Just about the worst of all possible worlds. This reticle incorporates the #4's heavy posts at right and left, but dispenses with the crosshair. Instead, the lower post is extended to the middle of the field in a "picket fence post" shape and becomes the aiming point. Subtends even more of the target than the #1 and adds the imprecision of a pointed post. Not a good design for a low light reticle, but apparently popular in Germany.
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....and further resurrection: my 1-4 is getting a #1....would I be crazy to put one on an old m8 6x42, also?
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I have a Meopta 6x42 with a Nazi #1 and I like it. ![[Linked Image]](https://s6.postimg.org/89hp5vr0x/scope151_zps2851f4d4.jpg)
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No #1's left. I do have a Zeiss #2, which is pretty close. Close enough.
Over time discovered I wasn't worth a crap at shooting at running deer with a #1. Sitting for low light, they are excellent for me and they certainly show up, but for running deer I ended up shooting high, just like some guy said. After using Leica's pointy #1, did prefer that much over Lupy's round top version.
And fwiw, if a guy wants a crosshair style that will always show up in the evening, the Leupold HD's subtension will provide that.
Finding the perfect reticle was about the same as most other pursuits--slogging through the snow thinking you are getting somewhere and then come across your own tracks...
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That Meopta looks to have a pretty decent point on it, eh?
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I would prefer a more defined point, but the leupold #4 looks too wide in mos pics.
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It does, it just doesn't show up well in that photo.
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Meopta #4 in a 6x42 ![[Linked Image]](https://s6.postimg.org/xfincq00x/DSCN4530_zps0rdethru.jpg)
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Meopta has done a bang up job. With that narrow center, if it was dark enough to fade the crosshair, it wouldn't matter. Do you know what that center subtends, Scott?
About 8"?
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Yeah, that narrow design of a #4 makes a difference. Wish the Leupold was that tight.
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Meopta has done a bang up job. With that narrow center, if it was dark enough to fade the crosshair, it wouldn't matter. Do you know what that center subtends, Scott?
About 8"? I don't know, I just shoot stuff. The pic is looking at leaves about 70 yards away.
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Noted... Zeiss used to offer a reticle #11 --a cure for shooting high with a #1. Since then it seems their scopes have gone the route of the big box ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/54581.jpg)
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