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I have the Zeiss on mine and the Leupy with cds on my .280 soon to be AI. I prefer the Zeiss so far. Mine is not the rapid z though.
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Shot the 257 today. 115 BTs were a little over an inch. 80 TTSXs a little under an inch. Shot 4 groups total (2 of each - not much time). Temp was in the mid 90s. Third shot was always the one that grew the group as the barrel was very hot by the 3rd shot. (Didn't have nearly the time to shoot i would have liked.) Only shot at 100 yards, but these appear to be winners and have now become my favored 257 wby load.
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Did you happen to clock them?
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I didn't. Wish i had a crono...
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You mind sharing your data for the 80gr TTSXs?
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Posted this in the Reloading section too, but just in case any interested don't make it over there:
Shot some 80gr TTSXs today, but I didn't get the accuracy I was hoping for. Average was right at MOA. With both charges, two shot were nearly in the same hole, one was out. Have seen this in MANY rifles over the years, but have never found the reason or a cure.
72gr R22 averaged 3742fps 73gr averaged 3883fps
Wondering a little about the big jump in velocity with just one grain increase in powder. But the sun was bright and overhead, and my chrono has done some funny stuff in those conditions before.
Temperature was 100 degrees, and it took FOREVER for the barrel to cool after just three shots.
Hope this proves of some use...
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Hondo, I rub the barrel with a 50/50 mixture of water and rubbing alcohol to cool the barrel down...works real quick. Just be sure to oil the barrel when you get home on Chrome moly barrels.
Also, I loaded for two custom 257 Weatherby's.
I loaded 71.5-72.0g of R@#22 with the 100g Hornady flat base.
I suspect that your load maybe perhaps be on the slower accuracy node, a higher velocity node is possible.
Also, I shot the 85g Nolser C/T bullet with AA3100 at 4130 fps. Send me a pm and I'll give you the load.
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what does the recoil is the 257 wea. mag compare too?
thinking about getting or building one.
is it a good elk round?
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what does the recoil is the 257 wea. mag compare too?
thinking about getting or building one.
is it a good elk round? A .270. JW
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what does the recoil is the 257 wea. mag compare too?
thinking about getting or building one.
is it a good elk round? Even though I like my .257 Roy, and am sure I could kill elk with it, I think the .270 or 7mm Roy would be better elk rifle choices.
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I've witnessed a lot of bulls hitting the dirt with plain old 100 grain soft point Weatherby factory ammo. No elk has ever shrugged them off and these guys didn't hit them good. The .270 or 7mm Roy is a better choice, but I would have NO problem busting elk all day long with a .25 Roy and good bullets. My favorite bullet has always been the Barnes 100 grain XLC, which is discontinued. I'm glad I bought several hundred of them. It sure is a fun, laser flat shooting round to pull the trigger on. Flinch
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rockchucker, thinking about getting or building one.
is it a good elk round? The following is why I ordered a .257 Weatherby. I will be using 100 TTSX for big game and 85 Noslers for varmints. Cliff told me about hunting elk in three states with a couple of his buddies. They used to use heavy for caliber bullets. He used 175 Noslers in his 7RUM while his friends fired 120 Noslers. All were partitions. One fellow shoots a .25-06 and the other a .25-06 A.I. He said they always had to follow up the trail at least fifty yards, but not over a couple hundred yards. I convinced them to try the solid copper bullets that were much lighter. Cliff went with 127 grain Groove bullets and 120 grain G.S.Customs. The other two tried 100 grain Barnes. To say they were delighted is an understatement Since switching they have killed fourteen bulls. The longest tracking job they had since switching is twenty feet. Not yards! They have killed two spikes side by side at a ranged 410 yards. Cliff fired a 127 grainer and the other fellow fired a 100 grain Barnes. Both of bulls dropped at the shot. One bull was shot at about 50 yards. The 100 grainer from the 25-06 A.I. entered the left ham. They found the bullet under the skin in front of the right shoulder. Its weight was more than 80 grains. The shooter claims 3,600 feet per second with his A.I. Does this answser your question?
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i guess so.
i've been thinking of a texas smoker aka 257 w.m. or a 280 a.i., but i'm unsure of which way to go.
i have a rem 700 in a 280, so the a.i. would be cheaper, but 3600 fps sounds nice.
woes is me what to do.
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I'm getting more optimistic - seems to be a well regarded gun, if inexpensive. Trigger, crown and 8x40 screws being done right now. She'll get a leupold vari-x iii 3.5-10x40 duplex. Given how flat they shoot i don't feel the need for a turret or a ballistic reticle (yet).
Thanks for the feedback. That's the scope I have on mine....with factory 100 grain spire points, and before the Timney was installed, it shot a 2 inch wide by 1 inch high group....at 300 yards. Where it was two inches low, sighted two inches high at 100. Amazingly accurate weapon for the money.
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I have a 257 Vanguard that so far has grouped well with everything that I have tried in it. It is scary accurate with 100gr, TSX's and shoots like a ray gun out to 300yds. (the longest distance that I have had a chance to try it so far). I plan on using it on mulies this fall.
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Friend of mine here killed 8 Bull elk with his Mark 5 in 257 Wea before he found out it was not considered an elk rifle. He said all the bulls flopped right where they were standing when hit.
Sure did disgust him to find out he did not have a proper elk rifle.
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Hmmm... This is convincing.
Makes me like how my Roy shoots the 100 TTSX at .75 inches even better!
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Finally got the 80gr TTSXs to group well for me. Had to slow them down to a paltry 3700 fps . Reckon they'll bounce off? Still haven't found the magic recipe for the 100gr TTSXs yet... John
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My wby likes it with H1000
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Has anybody had any luck w/ the Hornady 100 gr. Spire Points on the range or deer w/ the .257 Roy?
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