You can only shoot one bear every two years here in the land of 10,000 taxes. So you need to sharpen up your shooting eye on something. Let's see some pictures of varmints that have been "overkilled". 200 gr Sierra FN @2250 fps, Remington 700 SPSDG 375 H&H Magnum. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
You can only shoot one bear every two years here in the land of 10,000 taxes. So you need to sharpen up your shooting eye on something. Let's see some pictures of varmints that have been "overkilled". 200 gr Sierra FN @2250 fps, Remington 700 SPSDG 375 H&H Magnum. whelennut
Whelennut:
Just tell me that is the neighbor's CAT!
somehow a CAT and a 375 just make me smile...
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I don't have any pictures but I've used 7mm STW, .300 win mag, .338, .375 H&H, .38-55, .45-70, and (a borrowed) .458 win mag on our California ground squirrels.
As a little punk kid I shot a few not-to-be-named (not sure of the statute of limitations!) tweety birds with an '06 and 180s. They went clean plumb through.
Thar ain't no such thing as overkill. They're all exactly the same amount of dead as the ones I shot with the .22 long rifle, just more entertaining.
Tom
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
I've had lots of fun shooting grounies with a 7mm Mag. What's really fun is getting them when they peak at you from around an oak tree. Just hold a couple of inches into the tree and let fly. E
Travis...check out my earlier pics posted...love your pick of a 'yote rifle! Mine was tough on the jackals, even with 175 grainers, I had to "arrange" things for the pics, so they werent too gory.. Shot some with a .375 and it did less damage that the 7x57
And BTW..I think that Blackhawk hums...
Ingwe
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Those jackals are pretty good looking on the ground I bet they were only 50 yrds in front of you standing still.
Truth be known..one of them is the ONLY animal I ever shot without ever seeing it! My PH saw it come in and sit down in some tall grass while I was calling...He directed me to its whereabouts...one of these type things "OK..you see that gray branch on that tree...follow it to where it forks...and the dead grass underneath....." I followed his directions and pulled the trigger. First time I actually saw the jackal was the flop after the bang.... Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Yeah I know...you turd. 351 days till we go Trout Fishing Again! On that Travis/gopher pic, I couldn't tell if he got end-to-end penetration, or was that a Texas Heart Shot? Travis? Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Your jackal pics were my inspiration. Do you live in Africa or what?
I know what you mean about damage. That's why I used the pack the way I did. That thing was MESSY....And I challenge anybody that says the .44 Special won't kill gophers...
And I challenge anybody that says the .44 Special won't kill gophers...
It can be done, but your pushing your safety envelope without a PH backing you up.
Sooo, Travis, you shot him in the "back shoulders"....
RWE; as for backup, if you think gophers can be vicious.....its why I mentioned my PH when speaking of jackals. You can't believe what they are capable of...I still get nightmares...can't talk about it anymore...
Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
All kidding aside, we were tracking a wounded gemsbok one day when a jackal had a go at our little tracking dog, I had to literally kick him off the dog- didn't want to make the noise shooting. Caught up with and killed the Gemsbok, and a few minutes later, Mr. Jackal had tracked us and came in after a doggie meal...noise didn't matter now, so he got the 7x57 too, from a range of very few feet. No pics of him, no one would touch him, his behavior was such bad juju everyone figured there was something wrong with him. Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Love that pic. Speaking of medium bores on vermin. I was going to try my new-to-me .308 on some tonight. Rain is coming down real steady though. Might wait until Friday morning.
Campfire brethren: Will my .308 with 150gr Nosler BT's work?
For Gophers....and maybe PDs...anything bigger and you might have to go up to 180s! You see whelenut uses a .375 on raccoons...use that as a guideline Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
For Gophers....and maybe PDs...anything bigger and you might have to go up to 180s! You see whelenut uses a .375 on raccoons...use that as a guideline Ingwe
Thank you sir.
Warrior,
What did you murder that poor bastid with? I'd like to think your new Pre 64'...
When its windy in the winter I often use and 06 or 308 with 125 BT's for Coyotes, they throw up more dirt or snow so I can call my shots. My Rem 600 in 308 makes a handy truck gun.
Odd you mention that...years ago on my first outing with a .22-250 I smoked up a bunch of desert cottontails...Head shots...vaporized them, so I started aiming for just their noses...still vaporized them.... I was sooo pizzed...!! I WANTED some to fry up... Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Ingwe: Are you really a "young Nick Nolte" in real life? The similarity is striking. I worked on a movie with Nick Nolte back in Seattle in 1990-ish and you sure look like him! Great photo and great Varmint Trophy by the way! I have been going to smaller and smaller centerfire (and rimfire) cartridges for the last couple of decades so I can't participate in this interesting thread. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Ingwe: Just reading your written words (PD shot at 20 feet with a 300 Winchester Magnum!) gives me a throbbing headache! I have owned and shot several 300 Winchester Magnums in the past and the recoil hurt and offended me so much I have now vowed never to own or shoot one again - unless my life depends on it! Wheres my Tylenol? Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
VG; Not a Nick Nolte double...but you aren't the only one to mention that.. Ten years ago, when I WAS younger I bought a Rem 700 Sendero in .300 Win. When all the PDs were shot within ludicrous distance, out came the .300....My shooting pard did the same. I gotta tell you after about 80-100 rounds through even that heavy .300...it got a little tedious... The 20 ft.shot was when I had killed a couple at long range ( 500 yds +) and we walked down to the town to do a BDA ( Bullet Damage Assessment) One hapless PD had to stick his head up 20 ft. away to see what we were doing.... Ingwe
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
Nice coyote! I saw one last weekend when I was unloading the truck to head to my bear blind. I wish I would have had a 7mm Magnum with 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. I will next time! whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
\ Here is my oldest son and his first badger taken with a .223. He killed it with one shot! He was very excited. Note the lack of shade trees in South Dakota! whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
Depends..I have used the big bores on lots of stuff, but mostly on targets of oppertunity..
I have shot rock chucks and p-dog with a 25-06 and a 270 but after about a couple of hundred shots you can tell the difference and wish you had your 222 or 223..
These pics have been around for a while. A drug rep that calls on me told me 2-3 years ago the story on this. The young man in the pic was a relative or college friend. They killed all those pigs from a helicopter just west of San Antonio. Not with the pimped out RTV. That's my story and I'm sticking to it..du
I passed up on a young 8 point, and after calling for five mins decided to leave early. The coyote was briskly walking toward me as I left the stand. I saw him coming first, but he noticed some movement and paused. I guess since it was getting pretty dark he continued towards me. I quickly prepped my rifle right as he decided to circle to the left at 15 yds. I was aimed in when he paused to contemplate his error. The 280imp with accubonds left my right ear ringing as I heard the shot hit and whizz by after exiting. The photo with the rifle shows more guts hangin out cause I rolled the yote a couple of times.
dont have pictures but when the ground squirrels out at my uncles where the shots are fairly short start getting smart about the end of May i would break out my Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70 loaded with 405 grain hard cast and start holding on dirt my brother always called it cheating cause he didnt have one
my SMLE in 303 Brit, if yah hold for the middle, the fore quarters and head go in one direction, the rear quarters and tail go another and everything dead center gets vaporized when using deer bullets, been wanting to load up some soft points designed for the AK/SKS
A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books
You can only shoot one bear every two years here in the land of 10,000 taxes. So you need to sharpen up your shooting eye on something. Let's see some pictures of varmints that have been "overkilled". 200 gr Sierra FN @2250 fps, Remington 700 SPSDG 375 H&H Magnum. whelennut
Now, that's what I'd call "overkill" in full bloom..
Mostly, I've done my varminting with a .22-250. However, I've actually knocked off a pretty fair number of groundhogs with .270 using 110 grain V-Maxs. It launches them real good!
I've also gone on the groundhog warpath with my .35 Whelen firing 250 grain Hornadys. My best shot with that was when I slung up and laid prone to shoot one at 277 paces. It looked small through a 1.5-5x20 Leupold and I was holding high and into the wind but it worked perfectly well.
You guys are "kill'n" me! My wife and I went out on 11/18 to do a little calling, she with the .223 and I with my .375AI(my only big game rifle). We were primarily hunting dogs but as I'm still carrying a mountain lion license, I figured I'd bring something I could legally shoot a lion with. As luck would have it, the only coyote we called in came in on my side, hung up at about 150 yards, and offered me a frontal shot, which I took! And as luck would have it, we were in a hurry leaving home and forgot the camera. So the wife and I will have to try and do this again and maybe I can supply photographic evidence of a coyote taken with a .375AI with a 270 gr. Barnes X (I'm trying to burn up the last of my old style X's as I'm now shooting Triple Shocks). - memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
What's the story on that thing? Reminds me of a Suzuki Samarai I saw at the Islamabad airport with a machine gun mounted on the top of the roll bar, gunner standing in the back so he could fire over the head of the driver.
My personal destruction nadir was a small snowshoe bunny the size of a small cottontail, shot with Speer hollowpoint 60 grain bullet from a hot loaded 6mm Rem at a range of 35 feet. The shot left a pink swath on the snow 10 feet wide and 40 feet long, with rabbit parts dangling from nearby trees as fur rained down softly all around. The largest piece was a hind foot attached to one ear by a long thin string of skin. I'd meant to shoot his head off and eat him...
The 220 Swift is not a medium bore so I guess I am hi-jacking my own thread however I thought I would share. This is the result of Nosler 55 gr Ballistic Tip and a prairie dog meeting for the first time.
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
I'm suffering right now. Last night I started loading some Speer 100 gr HP's at 3300 fps for my 270. It's part of my Barrel Maker Stimulus Plan. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
I shot a ground squirrel with a 250 gr Speer out of my 35 Whelen AI. It first I couldn't find a mark on it but on close inspection there was a slight crease on his skull. It looked like a part in its hair.
Somewhere around my office are some pictures of my business partner shooting ground squirrels with Cindy Garrison using a .470 double rifle. I don't know if it was the recoil or cost of ammo that made him switch back to his 22-250.
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
If I can wake up in the morning I hope to have a story tomorrow about a coyote that meets up with a rem 260. I bought a new call on at time to Arkansas this week at this place called Nite Lite Outdoors and can't wait to try it out.
If I can wake up in the morning I hope to have a story tomorrow about a coyote that meets up with a rem 260. I bought a new call on at time to Arkansas this week at this place called Nite Lite Outdoors and can't wait to try it out.
I've been known to let the red squirrels (tree rats) have it with whatever I have handy be it my MKIII, 10/22, 204 Ruger 20 gauge slugs, 30-30 or my latest .260 Rem.
Plan is to build a 260 Rem heavy varminter as a twin to my Sako Varmint Lam SS .204
I will say though that the .204 with frangible bullets and all of that speed does a number on squirrels and rabbits. I should have a pic here somewhere of a rabit split from near a-hole tthrough ribs with the meat blown clean off the rib bones in spots. Basically gutted with one shot from the .204...
First off Merry Christmas all you medium bore fans! Awesome thread and video whelennut. No pics but I took two out of three racoons with a 308 Win Sako years back. They were all lined up at 50 yds but the 168 BT only tumbled the third one. My family got me an Eberlestock backpack with rifle scabbard so I'll be hunting yotes this winter and chucks this summer carrying my M4 and PSS. So hopefully I'll have some pics to add to this thread soon, wish me luck.
GoforBroke, Goforit! I have got some Speer 100 gr spitzers (.270)I am itching to try out on coyotes after this XMAS stuff is over. We have got lots of snow so it should be easy to see them. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
My son and I are going to start hunting coyotes this winter. I have and plan on using a Remington 700 in 223 Rem. I might just have to bring my Remington 700 in 280 Rem. once or twice!
Take nothing I say personal, remember....it's just the interweb!
I've been known to let the red squirrels (tree rats) have it with whatever I have handy be it my MKIII, 10/22, 204 Ruger 20 gauge slugs, 30-30 or my latest .260 Rem.
Yep works well, like the time years ago when I was still on the farm. There was this one old walnut on a bend in the road between the milk barn and the old hay barn. Every morning when I went by on a tractor feeding cattle there would be an old boar squirrel on a stub branch chattering and scolding me. I tried many times to sneak up on him with a .22 but never closed the deal. Finally said enough's enough, went to the house for the only centerfire I owned then. Loaded 110 Sierras into the ol' 270 and leaned against the barn. At 100 yards the bullet took the tough ol' critter lengthwise, there was hair all over that tree for quite a while. For some reason I never saw another tree rat take up his perch.
Those 100-110gr bullets sound pretty explosive out of a 270 win. Watched my buddy shoot a chucks with 130gr BTs a 130gr at a 100yds. Pretty much vaporized it.
My sister in law is complaining about feral cats in her barn. They have chased her cats out into the cold and eat their food, etc. If I sneak into the loft I can shoot them. I wonder if the .270 with 100 gr hollow points will be "enough gun"? I am afraid the 35 Whelen might make a mess in the barn and she has horses too. Maybe the 10/22 would be a better idea, or a .410 shotgun, what do you guys think? whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
I got out Saturday to hunt coyotes. I doubt if it got over zero degrees F all day. One of the guys had a .243 with 70 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips which was very effective! They/we were driving cornfields and I found out that carrying my heavy barrel .270 was not as much fun as I thought it would be in the deep snow. I either need to get younger of find a lighter rifle for this game. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
last kill with a "varmint" gun. most of the times when we go varmint hunting. we take a .30 calibre along, because you never know what to expect in africa. therefore most of our vermin are killed by larger than normal varminters. this jackal went down from a 308, the only other rifle available was 300wm.
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I might hunt too much, but it is still not enough!
LT Dan, Do you ever shoot hyenas? What rifle works well on them? My wife and I saw some in South Africa about 20 years ago in Sabi Sabi. I wish I could have shot some, they seem like a nasty beast! Regards, Jim
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
whelennut, in my neck of the woods the hyena's are scarce. we have the lesser known brown hyena. we get sporadic livestock kills from leopard. and because my region is primarily agricultural, the leopard:"shoot on sight rule" of thump exist.
but i wouldn't mind bagging one spotted hyena. i am part of a conservation association through hunting and i know that the hyena is an important part of nature. i just don't like them. they stink, are cowards and they are ruled by the woman!!!!
for some reason or the other hyenas are not hunted often. maybe some of the local ph's on this forum can tell us why. but my ph friends says that any 30 calibre with the normal well placed shot will do the trick.
I might hunt too much, but it is still not enough!
Lt Dan, The ones I saw were taking a wildebeest from a large male lion they were surrounding him and attacking from behind and when he would turn around the other side would come in. They hyena was running around in the brush with an entire leg in his mouth laughing like he was the devil himself. Very exciting to see. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
rattler, if you like skulls then you will love a baboon skull. a customer of mine exports them to the usa. it is a pest, and although he shoots and traps about 80(just on his farm) of them in a year their numbers are out of control.
whelennut, check out you tube there is a old documentary on lions and hyenas, by the name of "eternal enemies". there is this one male lion..... lets just say nobody takes his food.
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I might hunt too much, but it is still not enough!
I knew a guy who shot a red fox with either a 264 or a 7RM while deer hunting. Believe it or not, the pelt was still salvageable. My dad knew a guy who down loaded a 300 Savage and hunted grey squirrels with it, I believe it was a Remington 722 with a varmint scope. Also shot groundhogs with it.
My ultimate varmint hunting experience was shooting a woodchuck in my garden, I grabbed the nearest rifle and it was my Ruger #1 45-70 with 300 gr Hornady hollow points at max speed! Very quick kill and buried him in the garden at the same time! whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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