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Re: TSX Performance jorgeI #3427898 10/28/09
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,492 Calgary, AB, Canada	My buddy shot 4 deer last year with the 210gr TTSX out of his .338WM. He hit all of them in the neck. Every one of those deer had a baseball size exit wound (on a neck shot!).

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Re: TSX Performance Jordan Smith #3428469 10/28/09
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 D DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger
DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884	I've shot a handful of deer through the lungs with the 130 TSX in an -06. I've never had a "drill" through, though the holes are not huge. I would say about 1 to 1.5 inch in diameter, all the way through in a straight line with the lungs being jellied up pretty good. The biggest blood trails I have experienced have been from a TSX.

Re: TSX Performance DakotaDeer #3428838 10/28/09
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,278 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,278	Here's what a .308/150gr TTSX did last year after it hit a calf elk... no, didn't hit anything on the way: “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: TSX Performance Brad #3428848 10/28/09
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,278 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,278	Here's what a 180 Nosler Partition did this year on a 6pt bull elk, traveling through 3' of elk and coming to rest under the hide on the off side: “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: TSX Performance Brad #3429379 10/28/09
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Brad, I'm sensing an opinion being formed... There is you, whom I trust, and Dober, Whom I trust, that I know have had failures with a TSX.. I have been fortunate and never had it happen over a score of kills...and I remain a big fan. That being said I still push Nosler Partitions as one of the few "sure bets" in life....they ALWAYS work... and are probably the best compromise between penetration and energy transfer that can be had on the market.... Ingwe "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: TSX Performance Hawk_Driver #3429770 10/28/09
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,230 Rainy Western Wa MallardAddict Campfire Tracker
MallardAddict Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,230 Rainy Western Wa	I saw my 257 with 100tsx @ 3680 fps roy kill 4 deer in the last week and a half. Two by kids of 12 and 10 years of age. Both boys made shots in the 200-225 yds range and both hit the front shoulder crease (the cartilageish type bony area top of shoulder blade) and both deer were DRT no fuss no muss, and little to no meat waste. I put down a wounded buck for another hunter at a lazered 383 yds and hit it squarely in the front shoulder, small bullet hole in, 1.5" exit both shoulders and spine broke but surprisingly little meat lost. the last deer was a doe the the 7 yo shot at 150 yds, the doe was obviously sick bu on her feet so she got a 100 tsx into her between the shoulder blade as she attemtpted to leave, lost maybe 6-8 oz of meat mostly cause i cut wide around bullet holes. As said above there was a large amount of blood in the fascia, but little to no blood shot in the meat. I have yet to see an X hit an animal that made it very far, most have dropped at the shot

Re: TSX Performance MallardAddict #3430053 10/29/09
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,475 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,475 Paradise,Alaska	The X leaves dead stuff in it's wake,like no other................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: TSX Performance ingwe #3430563 10/29/09
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 17,491 Alaska - N63º, W162º Klikitarik Campfire Ranger
Klikitarik Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 17,491 Alaska - N63º, W162º	Originally Posted by ingwe That being said I still push Nosler Partitions as one of the few "sure bets" in life....they ALWAYS work... and are probably the best compromise between penetration and energy transfer that can be had on the market.... Ingwe That's a difficult premise for many to accept; an old bullet design still holding rank. And the X design is truly a pleasure to deal with... when it works like it was designed to. But John's old idea still has plenty of merit; probably better quality paint if not quite the same pretty shade as some of the newer stuff. Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.

Re: TSX Performance Klikitarik #3430918 10/29/09
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,404 Wyoming mclevela Campfire Regular
mclevela Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,404 Wyoming	In regards to shooting Pronghorn Antelope behind the shoulder with the .257 WBY & 100 gr. TSX, my experience mirrors yours. I have killed five Antelope with said combination with a starting MV of 3580 from 125 yds to 460 yds and all have reacted as yours. In the end dead though. Great bullet but there are better choices for Antelope. I have had the same reaction with same rifle shooting thru Antelope with the 117 gr. Hornady round nose bullet. When they are broadside and you shoot them thru the ribs there is not a lot there to stop whatever is going thru them.

Re: TSX Performance Stan V #3431946 10/29/09
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,924 Texas Stan V Campfire Outfitter
Stan V Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,924 Texas	Originally Posted by Stan V Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter John, Good move. The best killer I ever tried in the .257 Weatherby was Uncle Roy's favorite 87gn Hornady load. It was a dynamite killer on deer sized game loaded to 3800fps. JW I've never used the 87gr Hornady, I'm pleased as punch with the 100gr Interlock.....I'm thinking this 87gr bullet may be a good load for the grandkids if loaded to 2500-2600 fps? I'd like to revisit this.....would this 87gr Hornady make a suitable bullet for kids hunting deer? I imagine behind the shoulder shot is the best target with these? All American All the time

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Re: TSX Performance mclevela #3431970 10/29/09
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder T Tejano Campfire Tracker
Tejano Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder	Jorge regarding Leopard, I have seen them but not shot them, from what I've heard the Nosler is the way to go. I use the Barnes for most everything but a Leopard would be one exception. It certainly would work but the Nosler will open more and be more likely to result in that thump you want to hear. A friend shot one last year with a .375 TSX and they had a little more uncertainty than ideal even though it was a spine shot. The cat didn't react like a typical spine shot so they thought they had a bad situation on their hands. "When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli

Re: TSX Performance Hawk_Driver #3432243 10/29/09
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,849 Smoky Mountains, TN bwinters Campfire Outfitter
bwinters Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,849 Smoky Mountains, TN	Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver I used TSX's for the first time this year on an antelope hunt. Was shooting them out of a 257 WM, running right at 3490. Question is, what kind of terminal effects are you guys seeing? Little hole in, little hole out, not a whole lot of internal damage is what I saw. Not like what I am used to seeing with cup and core bullets. The farthest shot was 246 yards, the other 2 were 150ish. None of them showed the usual reaction to being hit, 2 just stood there for a few seconds and fell over. One ran about 50 yards and fell. All were broadside, double lung hits. My experience with antelope is that they usually pile up on such shots. My dad was shooting 25 cal 100 Hornandy's at 3140 fps, his results were much more like what I am used to. Critters piled up right there, lots of internal damage and nice exit wound. Is this just the way TSX's perform for you guys as well. I have a load for this gun with the Hornandy bullets that shoots the same velocity and about the same accuracy. Was wondering if I should just shoot them in the future, since I have about 1000 of them at the house. Not saying that the bullets failed. They obviously killed the critters. By the time I got another round chambered and back on the critter, they fell over. The reaction and the damage were just not what I am used to seeing on antelope. Just really curious as to what you guys see with these bullets, since this is the first time I have used them. My experience exactly on whitetails using a 25-06 and 7 RM - small entrance, small exit, not much in between. "Damage" from a 100 TSX from a 25-06 going as fast as it can go - shot at 100 yards. This shoulder blade is the far blade. This was the second deer of the year. The first one took a 100 TSX through the lungs and lived ~ 2-3 minutes before lying down and finally expiring. Shot another with the 7 RM using a 140 TSX when the TSX first came out - went way too far with minimal damage. All Nosler, all the time. Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.

Re: TSX Performance bwinters #3432372 10/29/09
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana WGM Campfire Outfitter
WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	Here's some TSX performance ... 6mm/.243" 85g TSX ... antelope buck shot thru the rib cage at over 400 yards away ... Vitals ... Entry wound ... Exit Wound ... Bullet from another antelope I shot on the same trip ... she was going almost dead away from me and the bullet went full length penetration on her at 350yds away and was found just under the hide of her front right shoulder... -WGM-

Re: TSX Performance WGM #3434824 10/30/09
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder T Tejano Campfire Tracker
Tejano Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder	WGM, nice to see a Game pose where the rifle is not pointed at someones belly. The bolt is open too, why is good gun safety such a rarity? X's just plain work, others may do it faster but do they have the same reliability factor? "When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli

Re: TSX Performance Tejano #3435573 10/30/09
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida	kee-rist...jorge A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: TSX Performance Tejano #3435653 10/30/09
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,440 Winn Parish petr Campfire Regular
petr Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,440 Winn Parish	Originally Posted by Tejano WGM, nice to see a Game pose where the rifle is not pointed at someones belly. The bolt is open too, why is good gun safety such a rarity? X's just plain work, others may do it faster but do they have the same reliability factor? first thing I noticed too. ouch

Re: TSX Performance petr #3435916 10/30/09
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,304 Mobile J jimmyp Campfire Ranger
jimmyp Campfire Ranger J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,304 Mobile	we need that zebra picture now.... someone please bring up hydrostatic shock just for the fun of it..

Re: TSX Performance jimmyp #3437031 10/31/09
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 272 Alaska F Finley Campfire Member
Finley Campfire Member F Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 272 Alaska	I will admit that TSX that didn't open on the calf elk sucks......Noslers aren't perfect either though. Heres a pic of a 210gr Nosler from a .338 winnie. Hit a rib in and still in the meat on off shoulder. Thought I would have gotten better expansion....load shoots 2900fps out that rifle and bear was 70yds. Bear probably wasn't as soildly built as the calf elk though

Re: TSX Performance Finley #3437032 10/31/09
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,475 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,475 Paradise,Alaska	Some rainy day,I'll upload a pile of "kill" footage,with cup/cores zooking left and right................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: TSX Performance Hawk_Driver #3438335 10/31/09
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,643 Occupied California kevinh1157 Campfire Regular
kevinh1157 Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,643 Occupied California	Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver JB, Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear others have had the same experience with them. I am sure they work great on bigger critters that need a tough bullet. They just didnt behave like the bullets I have used in the past on antelope. Will most likely go with the Interlock next year. From what I've read here and elsewhere, TSX's work great for large animals (elk, moose etc.), but performance is like you describe for most smaller animals. I don't have enough experience with them to say one way or another. I'm sure that will change as I shoot more pigs in central CA where non-lead is the only way to fly. There is an excellent thread on this subject right now in the African forum. Kevin Haile

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