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I've probably owned over 100 rifles chambered in 250-3000 and still have over 50, so the cool factor wore off for me long, long ago.
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Wow that really is too bad Jeff.....and congratulations????? I've got a few .250s myself and for me the "coolness" factor will never wear off (but then again it won't ever wear off for atleast a dozen other rounds either )....in fact going to go out this afternoon and shoot some 110 grain Accubonds in the newest of the .250 litter a Savage 14 American Classic. Seriously though, as so many have already mentioned the "pratical" difference is very close to zero....both allow for accurately placed shots which = meat in freezer. PennDog
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I can't agree with the "larger frontal area" argument on this comparison - come on, .014"? There really isn't a huge difference, if I had a .250 with a 1-10" twist I'd run heavier bullets than a standard .243 can. That being said, I own a .243 and not a .250-3000, or any .25 cal for that matter, and I've killed a lot of big game running 100 gr. Partitions at 3000 fps and a pile of varmints and predators running a 55 gr. BT at 4000 fps - the .250 doesn't offer quite that much versatility. Give me a .243! If we're going to have a debate such as this we could probably have more fun with .243 vs. 260 - and I have both. What's that say about me? (as well as a .308... maybe I need a 7mm08, .358 Win, .25-308 and .22 CHeetah to round out my collection?
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I believe the 250 may be a little bit quieter due to it being a lower pressure round compared to the 243.
If you enjoy reloading I'd go with the 250...it's a wonderful classic.Otherwise I'd get the 243 due to the many choices of factory ammo.
A 250 Ack Imp....now that's another story..
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I have three rifles chambered for the 250-3000, and no rifles chambered for the 243. Three .250s and one AI. No need or desire for a .243/6mm anything.
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What separates the 250 Savage from the 243 is the ability to move 110-120 gr bullets.
Apart from that there's no difference IME... except, as has been reported, the 250 is Cool!
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243/6mm are death rays on deer
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I believe the 250 may be a little bit quieter due to it being a lower pressure round compared to the 243. Yup. My boy loves his .250 as he says it's not as loud and is a little softer on his shoulder than a .243 he tried. Oh, and it has the cool factor.
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That's absolutelytrue about recoil and noise.
I've always said the 250 Savage is to deer sized game what the 223 is to varmints... works out of proportion to its size and recoil.
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You really should try a 260 someday, Brad
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As long as the .250 is a Savage 99 and the .243 is a Pre-64 Winchester Featherweight...you're good! Anything else with be rifles wanting to have class....
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While it may not have "class," I have killed a lot of deer plus 4-5 black bear with my Ruger M77 in 250-3000. Last deer I killed with it was with a 100 gr. Core-lokt placed behind the front shoulder. He went 20 yards and dropped.
The only deer I have killed with a 243 took a 100 gr. Core-lokt behind the front shoulder. He went 20 yards and dropped.
I still own the 250-3000 while the 243 is gone.
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I wish Barnes would come back with the 75 grain X bulley for the .25 caliber. I never got around to buying any. My number 1 reloading book says 3477 fps with H 414, 44 grains being max. It does not list barrel length though.
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It's just my opinion, but I like the 250-3000 better than he 243. I had a Rem 700 classic in the 250 Savage, and really liked it. Someone wanted it more than I did, and put enough money in front of me to give it a new owner.
I'm sure the 243 is effective, and would make a fine combination deer varmint round.
While off topic, or at least on the outer fringe, I DO like the 257 Roberts the most (though not offered) as you can shoot a 120 grainer. I wish the 257-08 was more popular. That seems like a good idea- but then again the 260 Rem/7mm-08 would be even better.
In short, flip a coin. Both the 243 and 250 Savage are the same from a performance stand point. Both are good for their intended purposes.
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I agree 99%!
I've got a couple thousand 75 grain Barnes Original Xs squirreled away, so that I can feed my 1 in 14" ROT .257" bores. The down-range performance is awesome from my 1 in 14" ROT 25 WSSM and they shoot to the same approximate POA as the 75 grain VMax.
Although the 75 grain Original Xs are no longer in production, Barnes does make an 80 grain Tipped TSX that ought to be an equally good medium game bullet. Barnes catalog #25731.
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I like the 6mm's, the .25's, and the 6.5mm's, and feel you really can't go wrong with any of them, provided you give a bit of thought to bullet selection. I hope to kill a deer with each this year.
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I agree, JPro. The projectile is more important than what is stamped on the cartridge head.
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While off topic, or at least on the outer fringe, I DO like the 257 Roberts the most (though not offered) as you can shoot a 120 grainer. I wish the 257-08 was more popular. The Rob is my favorite 25, with the 250 Savage a close second. I loaded 120 Speers in my 250 Savage no problemo and that combo was the real deal on deer. Still, I wish that Remington (or whoever) had exhibited the common sense to legitimize the 25-08 instead of the 260... it's better in a modern SA than the Rob IMO, and I truly believe would have done better commercially than the 260...
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The 250AI ruined me off the Roberts and the Souper, but I could like a Souper.
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The 250 AI is a sound way to get a Rob in a SA without the SA Rob's throat issues for sure... Still, I'm astonished the Souper has never been made legit.
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