Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Another Berger VLD failure !

I actually wanted the second word to be something other than "twit," but Rick won't let me use the word I wanted to.

Twit is pretty close, though, and maybe works just as well.

That's OK, I'm a missile surgeon, I can figure it out.

twat, maybe...?

Rhymes with punt.

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And for our boy in WNY, where I spent most of my life, we "ass shot" lots of Whitetails because good bucks have this annoying habit of laying up in some nasty blowdown or thicket before sunrise and not moving until after dark. If you kick them out, they usually don't run TOWARD you. As for Mr Griz, suggest you go on a nice backpacking trip in Jellystone in mid July. Get back in about 10 miles and you'll wonder WTF am I doing here with a can of fing pepper spray and some bells. You probably believe their are no Puma in WNY too......

Am I your "boy in WNY"? You been drinking? I was curious about your statement about all them grizzly bear, not your ass shooting of all your trophy animals. I wouldn't ass shoot any animal ever, unless wounded. And you hardily admit it? Puff that chest out and thump it.

Only Puma in WNY are on my feet.

no vld failures here

You think he's a runt? That would explain a lot--little man's syndrome.

Question: "I just read a post on another site stating that the jackets are something like 0.005" thicker along the bearing surface of the bullet. Not really sure what that will do to bullet performance on game. Out of curiosity how thick is the standard jacket on a VLD?"

Poster of the picture: "I measured both of them at 35 thousandths."

I've been saying this entire thread what you justed showed.

..........Though I could be mistaken, from what I understand, the VLD hunting bullets use a slightly thinner jacket thickness in order for them to do what they do after the initial 2" to 3" of penetration, which is to violently disrupt the vitals.

The match VLDs use a thicker jacket. Because of their thicker jackets, they won`t do as much internal damage as the thinner jacketed VLD hunting bullets do.

After reviewing the Berger site, if you have any further questions as to actual jacket thickness and effect on game, then give Berger a call.

Berger started usuing heaver jackets because fast twisted rifle barrels tended to make Bergers come apart on there way to the target.David Tubb had that experience and quit usuing them.
So VLD hunting bullets use a slightly thinner jacket and match VLDs use a thicker jacket.At least thats what there advertizeing says.
Somehow that just seems azz backwards to me.
dave

how many people do the two trolls Liar24 and Oldstinky1942 have to run off before Rick gets tired of them?

............Yeah, I know! But if you think about it though, the thinner jacketed (hunting) VLDs help create the wider, more explosive and more disruptive wound channels than do their thicker jacketed match bullets. From what I gather, that`s why the thinner jackets are used for the hunting versions.

The bottom line is, they work reeeeeeeeeeel good!

In the pics above, the one on the right may be one of the early match VLDs. Before they found out they made excellent hunting bullets they all came in the yellow boxes and did not specify match or hunting. I have some early 30cal 175s and after trading emails with Berger realize they are what are now available in the orange box and suitable for either match or hunting. As mentioned above, it is the match bullets that have changed.

Exactly.

I could care less what the box color is, all I know is they kill stuff dead and I don't have to track it.

For the majority of my hunting they just flat work. For those Berger haters out there, that have not even used them, stick with your bent tipped tsx's.

Edit: Not directed at you JB.

..........We need a moving "applause" emoticon too!!!! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

The Berger bullets to some,,,,is like Kryptonite to Superman!!! The hinges on their very "traditional" doors, are either rusted shut or welded shut!!!

Aristotle.....

John, you'll have to excuse (not really) "Oldman". He's one of those interlopers that moved to our neck of the woods from another State (NY) and thinks he knows everything. God knows we need more of those in MT and WY right?

Pompous doesn't even begin to cover it my friend

I must say thou, that his admission (on another forum) that he shot an Antelope here with a .22-06 took a lot of...balls? Considering that we have a 6mm min caliber requirement in WY.

JLM, did he have to shoot that one from the rear end?Rick.