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Before I changed the barrel, I think I'd try some muriatic acid , something like Drain Snake, Clobber or Mule Kick. The stuff we plumbers sometimes use in drains. What would you have to loose?--- Mel
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Mel "What would you have to loose?" Lots to loose, and nothing to lose... Darn English majors! art
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Mel "What would you have to loose?" Lots to loose, and nothing to lose... Darn English majors! art Gee Thanks Art, spell check doesn't do it all. --- Mel BTW See if I get you anymore Cobber
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Had one come into the shop just like that. It was a savage 110 and the owner had messed with it enough that it was pushed into the middle. The "snake" was closer to the chamber end so I pulled the barrel and left it in the barrel vise. I ground a small hook at the end of a rod of cold rolled steel and hardened it. After most of a day with it and a stylus pen light it came loose enough that I could tie a knot on it. The barrel was facing the mill so I tied a cord onto the mill bed and the knot. I cranked the hand feed and pulled that "snake" and about 12" of a cleaning rod out. The owner had hammered the rod in and turned it enough that it unscrewed a section. He never did mention this which is to bad because he trashed some rifling and the gun had to be rebarrel anyway,plus he had to pay for the days work.
So, the guy paid mucho bux to remove the snake, find out the bore was ruined and then had to rebarrel it anyway... Seems to me the obvious answer to these things is to save time, money and effort by tossing the barrel and installing a new one right off the bat... All these little 'home cures' have been interesting reading, to be sure...
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That's my vote. Who knows what else is jambed in there? I'd give the shop $50-$100, rebarrel it and let your smith keep the barrel. He can mess with it on his own dime.
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Why not just put a tiny little mouse in front of the barrel. By now the snake must be hungry and would crawl out by hisself.
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Most likely the bore-snake is made from a form of nylon. (It's possible that it could be an ester-based synthetic fiber but I'd bet on a polyamide) The great thing about polyamides is their excellent resistance to hydrocarbons, cleaning solutions and oils. Kinda makes sense for a bore-snake . Nylons do have limited resistance to oxidizing agents and some acids. However, these are going to be equally devastating on the steel in the barrel (e.g. 100% acetic acid will dissolve nylons). MEK will only partially soften the nylon and you'll actually end up with a more solid plug in the end as the MEK evaporates. What you'd need is something along the MEK family but more like methyl propyl ketone or methyl isobutyl ketone. These guys will prove more aggressive toward the polymer and would be safer on the steel than an acid. However, like others have said, you don't know what other damage has already been done to the bore. If you buy it, I'd do it for the action alone since there's no guarantee that the barrel would ever be usable.
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I assume this rifle is a M96 or 38. Not a a modern rifle. Both have he same action ,except the 38 had a turned down bolt. It is not a prime action to build a custom rifle on. The bolt has no gas shroud on it, it requires a cock on opening coversion and the saftey is a PIA to change to one that can be used around a scope. OK if this is already done or you can do it yourself. These are nice rifles,but one can buy a modern rifele for less than it takes to pay a smith to do all that
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"Oxygen will not explode or burn,"
In the Air Force, the safety regs stated plainly not to use Oxygen around grease or oil, and NEVER oil the fittings on the gauges.
Oxygen by itself will not burn, but like stated above, it will cause others things to burn and/or explode.
If there is oil in the bore or on the bore snake, putting oxygen in the barrel to try to either blow it out or make it burn would not be a good idea.
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Black powder. Nobody's mentioned black powder yet.
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Actually, I believe it was, about 35 posts above...
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Oxygen WILL most definitely explode. oxygen won't explode, it's an oxidizer not a fuel. It will enable other compounds to explode. however if you put O2 down a barrel in an effort to sustain combustion of the bore snake you will dmage the barrel as steel also burns in a pure oxygen environment.
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I stand corrected. Don't know how I missed that.
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Had one come into the shop just like that. It was a savage 110 and the owner had messed with it enough that it was pushed into the middle. The "snake" was closer to the chamber end so I pulled the barrel and left it in the barrel vise. I ground a small hook at the end of a rod of cold rolled steel and hardened it. After most of a day with it and a stylus pen light it came loose enough that I could tie a knot on it. The barrel was facing the mill so I tied a cord onto the mill bed and the knot. I cranked the hand feed and pulled that "snake" and about 12" of a cleaning rod out. The owner had hammered the rod in and turned it enough that it unscrewed a section. He never did mention this which is to bad because he trashed some rifling and the gun had to be rebarrel anyway,plus he had to pay for the days work.
So, the guy paid mucho bux to remove the snake, find out the bore was ruined and then had to rebarrel it anyway... Seems to me the obvious answer to these things is to save time, money and effort by tossing the barrel and installing a new one right off the bat... All these little 'home cures' have been interesting reading, to be sure... Starting to make me re-think buying used rifles!!! Mike
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I have a new in the box bore snake (30 cal). I haven't gotten around to using it. Willing to sell at a loss!
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Maybe a "Bore Snake Charmer" needs to be called in......
Truthfully I am glad this isn't located anywhere near me.....I don't think I could resist it from an entertainment standpoint...lol.
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I have a new in the box bore snake (30 cal). I haven't gotten around to using it. Willing to sell at a loss! Smart man.. Bore snakes for rifles are an item only a tad more important to avoid using than impact bullet pullers.. JMHO..
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Wow I have used bore snakes for a while, makeing me re-think it now. Great for Ar's, and other semi's, at least I thought. I guess I will re think my use of them.
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Ok it can be done ...it happened to me and Karl Feldkamp of Kampfeld Customs got it out of my 7mm-08 for me said he'd have to kill me if he told how...I can say no damage to the barrel and shoots good as ever....note to self don't use even just to dry a wet barrel
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